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Astrology in the Bible

Discussion in '2003 Archive' started by GODzThunder, Sep 13, 2003.

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  1. GODzThunder

    GODzThunder New Member

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    Ok, so I got your attention with the term "astrology." I am not referring to the act of looking to the Zodiac and stars to tell your destiny and future.

    I am talking about the ancient Jewish belief that the stars and moon were used as "signs and wonders" in the Old Testament days before the great flood.

    Even Job mentions the Pleaids and I believe the Bible gives reference to Orian's belt (constellations). Deffinately the Bible mentions signs with the Sun and Moon in reference to the last days.

    A reference in the a jewish script states that the stars used to be a testimony of God's word to man before the days of the flood. (like a bible written in the stars).

    (PS I do not personally believe in this "OT Astrology," I am looking for opinions and views for research)

    What is your view on this? :confused:
     
    #1 GODzThunder, Sep 13, 2003
  2. Tim

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    A few thoughts (not dogmatic about them though):

    Have you heard of the gospel in the stars? Basically a belief that the signs of the Zodiac are an ancient story of redemption.

    Also related: Why did the Jews use the star of David as their symbol? (Hint: transpose it onto the night sky)

    Sun, moon and stars were often used in scripture as symbols of authorities--God, Israel, Tribe leaders of Israel.

    Try those on for size,

    Tim
     
    #2 Tim, Sep 13, 2003
  3. donnA

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    If your using them for forutne telling, what you should do,a dn when. Read the column in the news paper, then no,it's satanic. It shows the persons distrust or no faith in God's ability to control or know the future. Why ask the stars wehn you have God.
    Here is the only site I seem to have saved from last time the topic came up.http://www.russpickett.com/basic/astro.htm
     
    #3 donnA, Sep 14, 2003
  4. GODzThunder

    GODzThunder New Member

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    Actually my research has to do more with what Tim mentions.

    The ancient belief of the "gospel in the stars" or something like that, not using stars for fortune telling.
     
    #4 GODzThunder, Sep 14, 2003
  5. Bob Farnaby

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    A couple of sites that outline the theory ..

    http://members.aol.com/larrypahl/5stars.htm sets out a comparison between zodiac signs and some prophesies.

    http://members.tripod.com/~Logos_X/Stargospel.html Another site that looks at "Gospel in the Stars" with a bit of the historical background to the idea.
    Quote from the site ... "This fascinating theory is that God used the clustering of stars that we call constellations as object lessons about His future plans for salvation and other prophetic subjects. This material is taken primarily from TheGospel In The Stars by Joseph A. Seiss - originally published in 1882. It also draws from E.W. Bullinger's The Witness of the Stars and a tape by Chuck Missler called "The Mazzaroth"."


    The Gospel in the Stars Controversy web site ..
    http://www.visi.com/~steved/cam/GospelInTheStars.htm
    Highlights some of the problems.

    Personally I'm not in the least convinced by the theory.

    Regards
    Bob
     
    #5 Bob Farnaby, Sep 15, 2003
  6. Dr. Bob

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    Looking at the mazzaroth (Hebrew word for Greek "zodiac"), the constellations, the sun, moon, et al, is ASTRONOMY. That is a science and wonderful study.

    All humans have looked to the sky for seasons, since Genesis (And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years).

    The perversion of that is ASTROLOGY where instead of seeing signs, seasons, day and night, years, charlatans attempt to prosnosticate the future or individual's horoscopes. This "divining" is blanketly condemned in Scripture.

    I have read Bullinger and also Robert Mount on the Gospel in the Stars. Interesting but NOTHING to justify the modern astrology cult.
     
    #6 Dr. Bob, Sep 15, 2003
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    I agree Dr. Bob.

    Joseph Botwinick
     
    #7 Joseph_Botwinick, Sep 16, 2003
  8. Tim

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    My main problem with Bullinger and Seiss is that they go at the Gospel in the Stars idea with a futurist dispensational agenda. If we just consider it a simple layout of God's plan of redemption through Christ it seems much more plausble.

    As far as astrology goes, I think the point is that it is a gross distortion of the original message.

    As I said before, I'm not dogmatically convinced, but I don't see anything scripturally or otherwise to rule out the possibility.

    Tim
     
    #8 Tim, Sep 16, 2003
  9. Xingyi Warrior

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    Astrology was mans invention. Humans drew inferences from innanimate, unrelated celestial phenomena out of man's innate drive to find patterns and create order.
    Any attempt to ascribe a theological meaning to this is fruitless because it was based on nothing to begin with.
    Apparently some christian had too much time on their hands and needed to write a book.
     
    #9 Xingyi Warrior, Sep 17, 2003
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