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At-any-moment return of Christ?

Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by StefanM, Dec 31, 2005.

  1. Me4Him

    Me4Him New Member

    Dec 28, 2004
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    The "end of the age" is 7 years "AFTER" the pre trib rapture, Jesus said "I WILL COME AGAIN AND RECEIVE YOU UNTO MYSELF", No Angels are involved in the rapture.

    Re 14:14 And I looked, and behold a white cloud, and upon the cloud one sat like unto the Son of man, (Jesus) having on his head a golden crown, and in his hand a sharp sickle.

    Re 14:16 And he (Jesus) that sat on the cloud thrust in his sickle on the earth; and the earth was reaped.

    Not in the rapture, it's over in the "twinkling of an eye".

    In the rapture,
    the "SAVED" leave the earth,
    the "UNSAVED" remain "On Earth". (for trib period)

    Second coming,
    the "UNSAVED" (Tares) leave the Earth,
    the "SAVED" remain "On Earth". (for MK)

    In the Bible the "ONLY PLACE" you'll find Jesus "SITTING ON HIS THRONE" is "ON THE EARTH", in Heaven he sits on the "RIGHT HAND".

    Every throne "ON EARTH" is Jesus's throne, even the GWT, all Judgement is committed to Jesus.

    The "TRINITY" explains more than just "GOD".
    But "EVERY BELIEVER" is not "raised" during the "PRE TRIB" rapture, the trib martyrs have yet to die.

    If you'll study the "FEAST", you'll find that trumpets were blown both during the "Feast of trumpets" and the "Day of Atonement", and the latter known as the "LAST TRUMPET".

    The "last trump" is the last "voice of the comforter", (HG) which is the "voice of Jesus", do I need to say that Jews have refused to hear that "VOICE" for "TWO THOUSAND YEARS", they aren't going to change tommorow, without "Signs and wonders", which Jesus won't give, they won't believe.

    Israel/world goes back under the leadership of the "law and Prophets" during the trib, the "L/P" system stopped with Jesus and won't return until Jesus (church) leaves.

    leadership by both "L/P" and "HG" do not function at the same time, in the same time frame, this is why one must stop before the other starts.

    Jas 3:12 Can the fig tree, my brethren, bear olive berries? either a vine, figs? so can no fountain both yield salt water and fresh. (at the same time)

    olives berries= fruit of the vine
    Water=knowledge of the lord (woman at well)
    Fresh=easy to drink, (spiritual crucify "old man")
    Salty=hard to drink, (literally crucify "old man") Trib period.
  2. Mel Miller

    Mel Miller New Member

    Dec 2, 2005
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    Quotation is only 2/3 correct:
    If you'll study the "FEAST", you'll find that trumpets were blown both during the "Feast of trumpets" and the "Day of Atonement", and the latter known as the "LAST TRUMPET".

    The Rabbis blew their trumpets on RoshHashanah
    (Tishri 1) on the Day of Atonement (Tishri 10)
    and on the evening of the Feast of Tabernacles
    (Tishri 14). The "Feast of Trumpets" included
    all three festivals.

    You overlooked the most important Feast of all!

    The Feast of Tabernacles was the most holy and most eminent of the Hebrew Feasts because it
    heralded the Ingathering of the "End of the
    Year" Harvest and anticipated the salvation
    of the Gentile nations which, in the their day,
    amounted to "70 Nations".

    This is according to Alfred Edersheim, in "The
    Temple, Its Ministry and Services". He is one
    of the greatest authorities of the last century.

    Jesus is coming on the day/night of a "full
    moon" which always occurred at the Feast of
    Tabernacles. Zech.14:20. Because the Hebrew
    calendar is always on a day before, during or after the full moon, "no one can know" the
    exact day in advance!!

    The Feast of Tabernacles commemorates the
    deliverance from Egypt. At this Feast, the
    "Last Trump" will sound that the promised
    deliverance has come, including "all the
    saints" coming with the Lord. Zech.14:5-7.

    "On that Day the Lord will be king over all
    the earth". Zech.14:9.

    Feast of Tabernacles is the only unfulfilled
    feast with a prophetic future. It was the
    "end of the year" feast of ingathering and a
    type of the "end of the age" ingathering.

    There is no getting around the fact that Jesus
    referred to this "last trump" when He said,
    after "raising up every believer on the last
    day" that He will send the angels AT THE SOUND of a great trumpet to "gather these Elect out
    of the four winds" to Himself "on the *same day* He is revealed" . . . just as Lot was rescued
    on the same day of Sodom's destruction.
    Mark 13:27; Matt.24:31; Luke 17:27-30.

    You admit yourself above that "NOT every
    believer will be raised up" and therefore
    not "gathered above" at a Pre-Trib Rapture.

    There is no other trumpet that sounds after Christ appears ON THE LAST DAY . . . except
    one that sounds the third time on that Day
    to complete the Rapture of ALL the Saints.

    Please give Jesus the glory He deserves!!

    Mel Miller Junior www.lastday.net
  3. Me4Him

    Me4Him New Member

    Dec 28, 2004
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    The "feast of tabernacles" (living with God) corresponds to Jesus's second coming/Mill reign.

    Jesus, as the "PASSOVER "LAMB" has already made "ATONEMENT".. IN HIS FLESH.. for "believers".

    However Jews rejected Jesus, they will make "ATONEMENT"..IN THEIR OWN FLESH... (being physicaly killed) for rejecting Jesus.

    The Church "Spiritually crucifies the OLD MAN" (flesh) to be saved,

    Israel will have to "literally crucify the OLD MAN" to be saved.

    Since Jesus has already made "Atonement" for "Believers", they will "LITERALLY, PASSOVER" (rapture) the coming "day of Atonement". (trib)

    Get the picture??

    There is a "last trump" "voice of Jesus", Rapture
    and a "Last Trumpet". "Voice of God", end of world.
  4. Ed Edwards

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    Aug 20, 2002
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    Amen, Brother Me4Him - Preach on! [​IMG]