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AT&T and GM sell porn - Pass it on!

Discussion in '2000-02 Archive' started by cdouglas76, Jul 31, 2002.

  1. InHim2002

    InHim2002 New Member

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    You are also ensuring the jobs of the people that manufacture the cars are you not?
     
  2. Brother Adam

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    granted, but that is not the focus of the conversation.
     
  3. AVL1984

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    I would never have noticed that if you hadn't have brought it up....LOL

    B.T. :eek:
     
  4. cdouglas76

    cdouglas76 Guest

    Another reason why we should not support companies who mainstream porn in the US...It feeds the additions of child rapists....Below is an article I just found on CNN....

    45 children removed in Web porn ring bust
    August 9, 2002 Posted: 11:36 AM EDT (1536 GMT)

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    WASHINGTON (Reuters) -- U.S. and European law-enforcement officials have arrested 20 people who sexually abused their own children and traded photographs and tips over the Internet, the U.S. Customs Service said on Friday.

    The cross-border sweep removed 45 children from their abusive parents, 37 of them in the United States, Customs said.

    Authorities say the parents traded photos of themselves sexually abusing their own children and shared tips in online chat rooms.

    Half of those arrested lived in the United States, while the rest lived in Denmark, Switzerland, Germany, England, Belgium, the Netherlands, Italy, Sweden and France.
     
  5. InHim2002

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    aren;t the child rapists trading child porn rather than the porn that AT&T are providing?
     
  6. peaches-ohio

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    My husband is an autobody repairman at a chevy dealership. They put bread on our table.
     
  7. mommynurse

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    We just had a 'go round' about this type of thing at our church not too long ago...with the whole Disney thing. People were so zealous..." OH! I will never buy another Disney product ever!" On and on. No wonder the secularists call us all hypocrites! Unless you boycott EVERYTHING then boycotting one or two things is nothing but sophisticated hypocrisy.

    I don't know about any of you, but I do not have the time to sit for hours on end researching for just the right toothpaste, hairspray, deoderant, soap, dish towels, and underwear (list is ad in finitum). I would venture a guess that the majority of companies that manufacture "stuff" have thier fingers in some kind of 'dirty pie'. Am I saying it's right? Not at all! Sure...I could spend lots of time finding all of the 'right' things to buy (based on who does and who doesn't support the things I don't condone). But by then my children will have grown up without learning our Lord's ways, my patients will not have been comforted, and the people who cross my path on any day would not be touched by my WALKING the WALK. But hey! I would have the right soap, I would have the right car, on and on!

    Boycotting products doesn't lead people to the LORD...walking with Him, serving Him, proclaiming Him with your life DOES! Satan is not stupid...you can boycott until all you own is your Bible; he'll find other ways. The ONLY way to defend against his tactics is to reach out with the love of Christ, and lead people to Him. Besides I'm pretty sure our LORD said something along the lines of 'Go and make disciples of all nations'?! He didn't say 'Boycott the use of all products from pagans for this is the great commission'.

    My post is not meant as a dig to anyone here. I admire the zeal for righteousness in not wanting to support porn, drugs, whatever...I don't like that stuff either! But when considering what is more important: researcing for right 'whatever' or serving our LORD...I'll take serving our Lord.

    BTW...I own a Plymouth. :D hehehe...sorry I couldn't resist!

    [ August 21, 2002, 02:20 PM: Message edited by: mommynurse69 ]
     
  8. Zebedee

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    Nobody has been so bad that they should forced to drive a Ford product. [​IMG]
     
  9. stubbornkelly

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    Ouch. 9 years and still going strong with a Ford over here! :D
     
  10. cdouglas76

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    Mommynurse69

    Please don't take offence but your take on boycotts is kind of nieve. Not boycotting everything doesn't make anyone a hypocrit at all. When you do choose to boycott a company, its honorable because you are having courage to shed light into the darkness and expose the evil deeds of people and thier companies. I bet if GM was selling cocaine you'd boycott them in a heartbeat...Tell me...what's the spiritual difference between the sin of doing cocaine and watching porn? Does it make you even the least bit angry that GM is one of the top porn sellers in America?

    [ August 21, 2002, 09:09 PM: Message edited by: cdouglas76 ]
     
  11. mommynurse

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    cdouglas:

    I don't know if I'd choose the word angry. No I don't like to hear that GM peddles in porn; no more than I liked hearing about Disney & porn. I would be no more distressed if GM was pandering cocaine than I am about thier involvement with porn. The reason I say this is because I am not naive about Satan's agenda. Tell me, do you really expect any less from this world? I don't.

    If you want to make a stand against porn (because I'm not saying that you shouldn't), and you have the time to look into it...then find all the companies that support porn. Then boycott them all. But don't go around touting that you boycotted GM, but still buy Disney movies...whatever (this was a hypothetical; I'm not accusing you of buying Disney movies!)

    The hypocrite thing is not something I made up. It is echoed by non-believers who know more about who's pandering what than we do. They are the ones who say we are hypocrites because we won't buy a product because of this evil, but yet we buy another product despite what the company is involved in...simply because we need or want that product. They see that as hypocrisy.

    I really think that as long as you aren't directly purchasing porn, drugs, etc. then the 'blood' is off your hands. What those companies do with thier profits will be exposed in the light someday, and they will have to give an account; not you.

    And, I'm sorry, I have to agree with a previous poster about the things sacrificed to idols comment. According to scripture all things in and of themselves are not evil; it is the meaning you give to those things that make them evil. Paul ate the meat sacrificed to idols; but it is because he did not recognize the meat as such. For Paul only acknowledged the one true GOD. Sexuality is a god in this day (has been for quite awhile actually). So if you are conviced that a GM car is used to glorify (by funding) porn; then please don't buy one.
    Scripture says to let each man be convinced in his own mind...to his Master he stands or falls, but his Master is able to make him stand.

    I would never condemn you or anyone else for your convictions. I just ask that you consider you choices prayerfully.

    BTW...I'm not offended. [​IMG]
     
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