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Who's fighting? I simply replied to a statement made by another member, I'm not even discussing it.

The KJB is so widely accepted because of its infallability and eloquence in prose.

Besides, it IS the word of God!

 

Bitysy! I thought everyone had me on ignore! :laugh:

I think this is the first time I've ever had to beg for a response. :laugh:

 

I've been reading you, but I'm in bed under a blanket coughing! I was hoping someone else would answer you. I'll look that book up for you when I can stand up without toppling over.

I've always been a bit puzzled as to how the KJV took hold over here though because of it's history.

 

This thread is quickly going in the wrong direction.

If we are going to go around the same mulberry bush it will be closed.

 

I suppose JOJ and myself should just quit being missionaries and start teaching peoples of other nations (some of whom are illiterate in their own mother tongue) the archaic Shakespearean English, so that they can read the one and only inspired KJV? If you really believe what you say, you and a handful of others have a tremendous work on your hands in evangelizing the world, and in a very difficult way. Have you attempted to carry out the Great Commisssion yet in foreign nations where English is not spoken?

 

Thank you. Get well soon! raying:

 

People are resistant to change. How long was Jerome's Latin Vulgate considered as the standard text before something came along that challenged its authority? And when it did, how much resistance was there to change?

 

I have found the KJB to be in complete harmony within itsself, although some supposed discrepencies have been suggested.

In that area I have found a simple explanation to satisfy any honest person who approaches this issue with the right motive.

The Geneva Bible had only a few places where it took certain Scriptures and applied them in error as to inherit the nickname "The Bishop's Bible".

Many will take this to a lower level and make insidious accusations against King James and the translators of the KJB as if they were out to honour the man and not God.

They will also attack those who hold to the KJB using the Letter to the Reader by taking thier statements out of context.

All the "evidences" used to try and discredit the KJB I have found to be invalid. This happens usually because a use of a corrupt interpretation of the Greek or at least a limited definition of the terms to attempt to discredit the KJB.

All the issues began before the giving of the New Testament in the differing of Rabbinic order.

Even the Jews tend to stick with only one interpretation given by a certain order originating from one specific rabbi. This is comparable to the issues regarded as a concern and known as Alexandrian and Byzantine MSS.

What we who are called "KJVO", and that usually applied as a derogatory term, hold to the Veracity of the Scriptures, The Harmony of its content, Contextual agreement, The Preservation by the Scribes and what we refer to as The Received Texts as those tetxts which have never been found to disagree with one another, etc, etc, etc. And many, many more valid reasons.:godisgood:

What will be soon to happen is my statements called into question, and that usually comes from the same origin as those infamous words, "Yeah, hath God said?"

The arguement goes from the modernists that "no doctrines are changed", BUT! those doctrines are most certainly effected by the limitedness and alterations they introduce to the thought intent.

Amd like the all too popular words of a Sonny and Cher 1960's pop-rock song, "And The Beat Goes On..........":wavey:

 

Right, so since the Geneva was brought over with the Puritans, why wasn't it the one we kept on using? Just following Amy's line of thought here - We've actually skirted around this before, but I don't think it's gotten anywhere.

 

It was outlawed.

 

In the new world? - what will become the states?

I guess that makes sense.

 

I'm imagining they weren't happy about it though!

 

Have you tried to evangelize anyone with the vehement attitude you expressed towards your brothers in Christ?

Seems you're a little misinformed, Brother, so try not jumping rope to all sots of conclusions next time.

The KHB and its Elizabethan style is perfectly definable and easily expalined to anyone who has even only a slight ability of comprehension.

The modern versions simply afford too much information in some areas, but mostly a limited amount in most areas,to process without coming to the point of confusion!

From our perspective and point of origin, we are very busy in the evangelization of what we also refer to as the 10/40 window. Try doing a little Google on it and fasten your seatbelt.

We are in full support of 1st Bible Ministries. We are currently accepted by the Prime Minister of Mongolia and having available to them their first ever Bible in their native tongue.:godisgood:

 

Thanks Salamander. I am definitely NOT trying to discredit the KJV. I will never discredit the word of God. I am just trying to understand why the KJV is considered to be the only valid version to some. Why not the Geneva Bible? Was/is there something wrong with it? It can still be purchased today. Do you consider it to be the inerrant word of God? Or do you consider the KJV the only valid Bible?

 

Off topic post deleted. See warning above. This NASV is not the subject of this thread.

 

Far more than you will ever know, and with far greater results than will ever be realized.

I really can't believe that you are so naive concerning the world situation.

This is your naivety that shows. You don't have a clue about the world's nations do you? Many nations are illiterate concerning their own nation, let alone English. Can you understand that simple fact? Have you ever tried to learn Arabic? Punjabi? Swahili? Cantonese? Sindhi? Bengali? Hindi?
I doubt it. And many of these people can't read or write in the langauges they speak, and can't speak in English at all. Do you just assume everyone in the world knows English? You are very naive. You assume you can go into such nations and teach them English in order to read the Bible when they can't even read their mother tongue. What arrogance!

Furthermore, because of the diligence of the Wycliffe Bible Translators, and the United Bible Societies 90% of the non-English speaking world that do have Bibles, (90% of that world) have Bibles based on a Westcott-Hort text. The various TR societies (such as the Trinitarian Bible Society) have done little in propagation of TR based translations of foreign translations. Most translations are more akin to the ASV or RSV.

When William Carey went to India what did he do? Did he try to conform all the Indian people to learn English that they may read out of the "inspired KJV"? No. Instead he translated the Greek and Hebrew into 26 different languages so that they might understand the Bible in their own language.

So nothing is better than something. You would deny them a Bible completely if it is not a KJV which they would never be able to read.

Busy doesn't cut it. You have already failed in this area where others have succeeded. You will never conquer where others have already penetrated. It is too awesome a task.

If it is in their native tongue how can it be the one and only inspired KJV? Here is where your argument breaks down.

 

Thus the KJV has long endured, but only in the English language. In most other nations it is almost unheard of.

 

Me three!
I cast my lot with TCGreek & Rippon.

In Church Vernacular:

Amen, Brother TCGreek! :thumbs:

Amen, Brother Rippon! :thumbs:

 

Amen, Brother DHK -- Preach it! :thumbs:

 

Whoo, boy, I'd hate to try to evangelize the Japanese by having to teach them English 1611 grammar and syntax. (And I truly love the KJV.) My friend and translating partner "Uncle Miya" is a retired high school English teacher and knows English idioms and grammar most of you folk on the BB don't, but has a real hard time understanding the KJV. (We used it for reference for awhile in our translation discussions.) Praise the Lord for the Japanese Shinkaiyaku Bible!