Featured Baptist and becoming Catholic

There is no "state of grace" in regard to those who practice idolatry and deny Jesus is the only way to heaven! They are in a "state of SIN" not grace.

However, this is not God's view point! God demands repentance as the condition for not perishing (Lk. 13:3,6). God demands all come through the Son (Jn. 14:6). God provides no other salvation under heaven among men (Acts 4:12). God does not consider any other religion as a vehicle of His truth. Please site one example from Genesis to Revelation where an idoltrous person living in an idoltrous religion is ever regarded as "good" or "saved" or "in a state of grace" or one of his children as long as they remain and die in that faith??????? This is the teaching and gospel of the old harlot but not found in God's Word.

The Bible nowhere teaches such nonsense! If this foolishness were true then the best thing all Christians can do is keep their mouth shut and never witness to sincere devout persons in idoltrous religions.

 

The problem with your quote is that it is not quoted in context. You think its saying that Muslims are a part of God's salvation when that is not what that passage is saying look at it more closely.

Now this isn't saying Muslims are saved but that the plan of salvation includes people who Acknowledge the creator. Because you quote that apart from the large context of that passage of the Catechism you miss that right after it the catechism says.

And its right after that that the Church Doctrine of "Outside the Church there is no salvation" is discussed. Therefore, you read into it something it is not saying. But in order to be saved the plan of salvation calls for certain steps which one is to acknowledge the creator God. This alone is no guarantee of salvation. However, the Church considers that the Muslims at least teach a monotheistic God rather than Polytheistic and holds that Muslims claim theological decadency from the faith of Abraham. Which is a starting point. But certainly not the end. The question comes what of people who have never been exposed to the Gospel? Who never had the choice of Believing in Jesus Christ for their salvation? What of them? Well in that same discourse from which you only quoted a part to purposely mislead about Catholic belief it says

Other words, we leave it up to God who may or may not save them. But we don't presuppose he won't. Even in the NT we see this Idea of God leading people who have no exposure to him to himself.

 

What a whitewash! The subject is the church's relationship with the Muslims. Isn't that the very first line? The particular relationship in view is "the plan of salvation"! Note the words that define this relationship in God's plan of salvation - "TOGETHER WITH US they adore the One merciful God" when in fact they do not even worship the same God or Creator. Allah is not the God of Abraham or the God of the Bible but a false god of their imagination. Allah is not the Creator.

They are idolaters, worshipping a false god and yet Rome claims "TOGETHER WITH US they ADORE the ONE meriful God" when in fact neither Rome or Muslims worship the true God of the Bible and the proof is that Rome claims affinity "TOGETHER WITH US" in idoltry. Rome has her idols they worship and Muslims have their idoltrous god. They do belong in the same category (Rev. 17:5).

 

Whoaaa, friend, do you think that's going too far? I consider the RCC on the edge of orthodoxy, but they still do worship the Trinitarian God, as evidence by their acceptance of the Apostles and Nicene Creeds.

 

My friend, there is ULTIMATELY not one whit of difference between the Bhudist type of salvation and Roman Catholic salvation. Ultimately it is a justification by works type of salvation or the "broad way" option Christ refers to in Matthew 7:13.

Roman Catholics have right WORDS but paganistic MEANINGS attached. They are idolators and thus perverters of the true God regardless of their Biblical terms or creed.

Just as JW's use Biblical words, and Mormons use Biblical words but fill them with unbiblical meanings and it is the meaning not the form of a word that counts.