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Baptist Pastors Not Believing the Whole Bible?

Discussion in 'Bible Versions & Translations' started by Jaocb77, Jun 23, 2011.

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  1. John of Japan

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    Didn't remember that. He and old Carl were friends, though. The whole Rice clan once stayed in a Florida motel owned by Carl on a trip to Disney World.
     
  2. John of Japan

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    He opposed it in Our God-Breathed Book the Bible, but that was long after the publication of the RSV. I know he opposed it in the Sword around the late 50's, early 60's, but don't know the details.
     
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    We all publicly opposed the RSV back in 50's and 60's.....Hate to say how many of us actually used it in study.

    The one verse, using "maiden" instead of virgin, was not really that far off unless we reverse NT teaching. A maiden, in Jewish culture was a virgin. It was the possibilities, however, that turned us against the RSV.

    Karl McIntyre and Ian Paisley were both rather "verbal" preachers and teachers. I sat under both at Jarvis St. Baptist. Paisley has done quite a turnabout and mellowing in Ireland these days. I guess we all have.

    Cheers,

    Jim
     
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    Ian Paisley mellowing? Now that's interesting--good to hear too. I heard him preach at BJU back in the day.

    Carl McIntyre is mellowing too--since he's in Heaven. :saint: By all accounts he never mellowed on earth.

    Neither one of them held to only one version of the Bible, to my knowledge, though both opposed translations done by liberals.
     
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    Those of us who pastored during those years had a far different view of right and wrong than is so to-day.

    Cheers,

    Jim
     
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    An amazing turnabout, truly.
     
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    I apologize for this is off the point of the OP, but Is Ian still buddies with Clarence Sexton? I believe he spoke at a conference there a few years ago.
     
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    PM me on FB :)
     
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    Are we friends on FB? I forget.
     
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    The Sword of the Lord ran an ad in the October 17,1952 edition. The ad promoted the RSV and it read in part: "Inaccuracies and errors of older versions have been corrected in light of ancient manuscripts."

    Carl Macintire voiced his displeasure. rice then asked his readers to forgive him. By November 14th Rice said he used the RSV only for "reference and comparison."

    By 6/4/65 the SOTL ran articles "denouncing and showing the [__________] of the RSV."
     
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    It shows ignorance on translational issues, and how the Bible has been handed down to us.. Only the uneducated hold to KJVO.. when they get the proper education on church history, and translational history, they will understand. But until then they are like a child holding a loaded Gun.. they are very dangerous.. .

    The OPs first mistake is quoting someone like David Cloud.. (IN MY OPINION anyone holding to KJVOnlyism is wrong, because they are worshipping a created thing (a translation) instead of God himself... and that would be worthy of church discipline in our church!)..

    I don't mess around when it comes to slandering the word of God in any translation (Yes I love the KJV.. as I do the NIV, and the others)..

    I will not allow KJVO taught in our church. And anyone teaching KJVOnlyism will be asked to cease and desist, and if they refuse, they can move on to the local IFB church down the road.
     
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    Thanks for the info.

    Did you sign up for the SOTL database or something?
     
  13. Jim1999

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    It shows ignorance on translational issues, and how the Bible has been handed down to us.. Only the uneducated hold to KJVO.. when they get the proper education on church history, and translational history, they will understand. But until then they are like a child holding a loaded Gun.. they are very dangerous.. .

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    We were not ignorant of church history, or translational history when we held to the KJV, we were defending the faith once delivered. I guess you had to be there to rightly understand why we stood as firmly as we did.

    I do not suppport modern day KJVO, and believe is reading from all other versions, but I understand where it came from. Many of you pups don't, I fear, or you wouldn't belittle us the way you do.

    Cheers,

    Jim
     
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    Jim,
    You have hit the nail on the head and if people cannot understand this, they have a problem.

    God said he would preserve the "word", not "words, periods, commas and other things that most didn't exist in the original manuscripts.

    I would take the "Word" to be the essense of Jesus Christ, God the father, the Holy Spirit and their "message" to mankind.

    Good post!
     
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    No,I posted the same information back in 2007 here on the BB.
     
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    you made my day.. I've been feeling old lately!.. starting to realize I can't do the things I once did.. .. thanks for calling me a pup!... :wavey:

    I never knew you were KJVO Jim.. I really don't place you in that category.. I'm talking about the extremist like Cloud, Riplinger, Ruckman, Chick, and those that parrot them from the pulpit without study.

    YOU a KJVO? NOPE... don't see it.

    Again, thanks for making my day!... :thumbs:
     
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    Ten page limit (thankfully). Thread closed per BB policy.
     
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