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Featured Baptists Undertake Theological Dialogue with Pentecostals

Discussion in 'General Baptist Discussions' started by Jerome, Jun 7, 2012.

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  1. matt wade

    matt wade Well-Known Member

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  2. Steadfast Fred

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    Actually you are a leader of a cult that has tagged the word "anabaptist" in its name. It has no similarity to true Baptist theology.
     
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  3. DHK

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    What Baptist Church are you a member of?
     
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    [snipped for juvenile behavior to a moderator]
     
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  5. Tom Butler

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    Originally Posted by Tom Butler [​IMG]
    Of course, it was a political movement. The resurgence utilized the same methods the moderates had used to control the convention up to that point. Conservatives flooded the convention with messengers, elected a president, who appointed conservatives to the Nominating Committee, who recommended conservatives to the boards of the various agencies, whom the convention messengers elected.

    Those messengers then elected conservative agency heads (and seminary presidents), who hired conservative employees, staff (and faculty). Because of staggered terms, it took several years for the resurgence to be complete.

    It was exactly the method (which you call worldly) used by liberals and moderates to control the convention machinery up to that point. The resurgence would never have happened without the groundswell from the grass roots, who elected that first conservative president.

    Did the convention force its views on its agencies and seminaries? You bet. Did it force its views on any local church. No, nor could it.



    How were they wrong?

    You can't criticize the conservatives for attempting to take over the convention and let the moderates and liberals off the hook for doing the same thing with the same methods. It's called voting.

    You may not like the result, but you can't fault the way it was done. They took votes.
     
  6. Alive in Christ

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    WOW.

    This thread sure did spiral downhill quickly. :tonofbricks:
     
  7. Michael Wrenn

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    You are a liar. Point out how we are a cult, or shut your lying vile mouth.

    We are Trinitarian, we affirm the Apostles Creed, we are orthodox in every way.
     
  8. Michael Wrenn

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    What I was saying was that the moderates and liberals were wrong, too. Did you not get that?
     
  9. Michael Wrenn

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    Yes, and let it be known that the personal attacks were not initiated by me. That can clearly be seen by anyone who reads these threads.
     
  10. Jerome

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    Huh?

    Here's prominent Southern Baptist Timothy George (part of the so-called "Founders" crowd no less) blogging about hosting the planning meeting for this ecumenical conclave:

    http://www.beesondivinity.com/default.aspx?p=46134&beid=116150

     
  11. Michael Wrenn

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    A local small rural Southern Baptist church.

    Don't know if I can maintain that any longer, especially after what I've read here. Don't know if I can be a Baptist in the South; seems they're either fundamentalist or liberal, nothing in the middle.

    But I'll tell you one thing; Neither you nor anyone else can take away my Baptist beliefs and heritage. I'll maintain that until I die.
     
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    Michael, you list yourself as the Archbishop of a Celtic Anabaptist Church.
    Baptists of today may trace their lineage back to the anabaptists from the Reformation and before, but only because the name means "baptized again," and they revolted against the practice of the RCC, and others who held to the practice of infant baptism and their heretical practices.
    If I am correct in my history it was the Mennonites and Amish that descended from the anabaptists. Thus if you are an anabaptist today you would be Amish or Mennonite, not Baptist.
     
  13. Steadfast Fred

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    You teach cultic doctrines such as people choosing salvation after death, people being saved without even having to know Christ, etc..

    You are training spiritual thieves and robbers.
     
  14. Steadfast Fred

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    You wouldn't pass as a Baptist in the North either with those heretical doctrines you teach.
     
  15. preachinjesus

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    Well I'd like to thank those who have completely derailed this thread in a vain rabbit chasing excursion to try to ferret out a supposed "non-Baptist."

    This had been a good conversation.
     
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    Wow, I'd be embarrassed to say this about another believer without actually knowing them. Just a sad commentary on your theological blinders.
     
  17. Steadfast Fred

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    I know more about the archbishop than you realize. And he has posted the very things I have addressed on his website.

    Apparently it is you who have the 'theological blinders' on.
     
  18. Tom Butler

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    Sorry, I didn't get that.

    I'm going to repeat my question. How were we wrong?
     
  19. Michael Wrenn

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    The reason I chose Anabaptist for part of the title was to honor Anabaptists and all their spiritual descendants, including Baptists. But you can see in the Principles that our beliefs affirm the Baptist distinctives. I am not a pacifist, thus I could not be Mennonite. I believe the scriptural form of baptism is immersion, although I would allow other forms. Some Mennonites affirm soul sleep; I do not. Mennonites forbid oaths; I would not.
     
  20. Michael Wrenn

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    I have shown where the early General Baptists, Wesley, Maurice, Arminian bodies and more believed as I do. They were not cultists, and neither am I.

    Besides, you lie and mischaracterize my beliefs. What does that make you?
     
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