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Barack Obama and Jimmy Carter

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by Cutter, Jun 6, 2008.

  1. Cutter

    Cutter New Member

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    I view Obama's rise to be similiar in some ways to that of Jimmy Carter. People were disenfranchised with the status quo and were looking for change. Out of the south came a man with a huge grin, southern charm, and an infectious personality. His credentials were not thoroughly checked and he received a pass just because he was different and a change from the past administration. I know firsthand and maybe some have studied history to understand how disastrous his presidency was. His inexperienced domestic policy and his naivety in foreign policy exposed him to be a weak and a mistake in the position he was elected to. Something I believe will happen with Obama if he is elected.

    Your thoughts.
     
  2. ajg1959

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    I think this is a very good comparison.

    The only difference I see in them is this.

    Altho I dont agree with Carter's politics, I do admire him for genuinely believing in the polocies and agenda that he put forth. In other words, I believed him to be honest even when I thought he was wrong. (Bill Clinton was just the opposite, his beliefs depended on the current polling results and changed like most folks change clothes.)

    But Obama? Noone really knows what he really believes. The few glimpses of his idealology that we have had include Black Liberation theology. If this is his driving motivation then we are in trouble. It also brings his honesty into question because he says that he doesnt believe or endorse the ideas of Black Liberation theology, yet his church and wife both have expressed extreme views on the issue. If he is hiding a hidden agenda that embraces this extreme racist viewpoint, it could damage our country and race relations for years to come.

    AJ
     
  3. Magnetic Poles

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    If elected, I hope Sen. Obama is Superman. He will need to be to clean up the mess that Bush is leaving his successor. War abroad, economy in a shambles at home. You're doin' a heck uva job, Bushie!
     
  4. JustChristian

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    I can't believe Bush hasn't been impeached. Clinton gets impeached for having an affair and Bush:

    1) Does nothing on 9/11,

    2) Leaves Afghanistan where the real terrorists were hiding,

    3) Invades Iraq under the flimsiest of excuses.

    4) By doing so turns the whole world against us when we were getting a great deal of sympathy and support after 9/11.

    Then he destroys the economy by cutting taxes for his rich friends and doing nothing to soften the blow of skyrocketing oil prices. You see the real truth of the matter is we don't need to search for new oil reserves (right now). What we need to do right now is to build refineries (real constraint is refinery capacity not oil supply), conserve, and upgrade our public transportation.

    Has anyone heard Bush say a word about the need to build new refineries? There hasn't been a new refinery built in the last 30 years.
     
  5. Revmitchell

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    What does this mean?

    :confused:

    We are still in afghanistan

    12 years of thumbing their nose to the cease fire agreement is not flimsy.

    The ones who "turned against us" were made up mostly of those who were dealing with Hussein against the long standing sanctions and profiting form the food for oil program that left the Iraq people suffering.

    Since this is blatantly false I will assume it is made out of pure emotion. Obviously it holds no truth.



    Who create jobs for the middle class and pay the brunt of the taxes in this country.

    The President doesn't have the power to accomplish this.



    The blame for this goes to all the anti oil groups, not the President.

    Public transportation doesnt work in every city.

    Has anyone heard anyone in congress say this? How about Obama or Clinton?
     
  6. JerryL

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    When Clinton was in office he threatened to release the oil reserves and the oil and gas prices went down immediately.
     
  7. tinytim

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    If it wasn't for the crazy Earth loving, tree hugging, Sky-is-falling, environmental worshipping liberals, refineries could be built...

    But they would rather save a Polar bear than help their fellow man.
     
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    "What we need to do right now is to build refineries (real constraint is refinery capacity not oil supply), "

    I've heard this a lot however the news last Friday I think it was said that refineries were cutting back on production because the demand was so low.

    Rather makes one wonder who is telling the truth -- if anyone these days, media or politic.
     
  9. Cutter

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    I'm sad to see my thread that I started making a comparison between Carter and Obama become a trash Bush opportunity!

    Now get back on topic! And all you Bush haters start another thread to run the President down if you'd like.
     
  10. KenH

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    If Barack Obama is elected president in November, then I will be hopeful as to how he handles the job - at least in comparison to how I would feel if John McCain is elected president.
     
  11. hillclimber1

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    I have but little hope for America with Obama as president. I have a little hope if McCain gets in. As narrow a difference as I can convey. Kinda pessimistic on the one hand and just mistic on the other.:laugh:
     
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    I voted for Carter and I will vote for Obama. For Obama to be elected president would be a breath of fresh air for this country. I would only hope that he will be able to reverse some of the disasters of the Bush administration's disastrous tenure!
     
  13. Cutter

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    Ummmm... like Reagan had to reverse the disasters of the Carter administration?
     
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    Carter is one of the worst presidents that we have ever had. And, by his statements and associations of today we see that he is still a walking disaster. Hopefull Obama won't prove the be the same way. But, I have my serious doubts.
     
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