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Barack Obama's Remarks at the Lincoln Memorial

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by KenH, Jan 19, 2009.

  1. LeBuick

    LeBuick New Member

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    Yep, Obama is the only one comparing the economic situation to the great depression and half a million jobs lost per month is really not that bad. Wars on two fronts is always a good situation for the nation and he caused our currently leader to have a 22% approval rating.
     
  2. LeBuick

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    You think McCain would have chose him for VP?
     
  3. Dragoon68

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    The "failed ideology" is the old socialism - the one that's always failed - that your new hero will be taking you to the cleaners by over the next four years.
     
  4. Dragoon68

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    Obama said "In the course of our history, only a handful of generations have been asked to confront challenges as serious as the ones we face right now."

    Every generation - not just a "handful" and certainly not the present one - I know about has had to confront "serious challenges". We've been doing that in America since we came up with the idea to establish this nation. We use to be able to handle it with a lot less "help" from Washington.

    Your new buddy wants you to think these problems have never been faced before and the hand of a big daddy government is essential to your salvation. You believe it but I don't.

    You've got to puff up the dragon if you're going to kill it and, if you realize you can't, then you've got to make it even bigger so as to excuse yourself from your promises.
     
  5. LeBuick

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    I think what he meant for an example, when Bush took office we had a balanced budget and no wars. Unemployment was around 3% and we were in the middle of the dot com boom so money was flowing like cheap champaign is in DC tonight. Times were relatively good as compared to the day Obama will take office.
     
  6. KenH

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    Just look around at the economic mess that your right-wing economics has caused.

    I am glad to see right-wingers being swept out of power as of noon EST tomorrow. :thumbs:
     
  7. LeBuick

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    AMEN Brother... Free market capitalism with less oversight is what got us in this mess. It sure can't get us out.
     
  8. Jim1999

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    Greed is what got us all into this mess.

    I sure am looking forward to this even tomorrow. One day after Martin Luther King Jr's Day. It brings special memories to me, a former civil rights worker.

    Cheers,

    Jim
     
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    JOSHUA'S OPINION:

    I'm getting a little tired of the comparison being made on CNN and other networks between Martin Luther King, Jr., Abraham Lincoln and Barack Obama. MLK's "dream" wasn't about getting a black president elected, was it? For someone who's only 7% black, and who swore all over the place for almost the entire campaign that this was NOT about race, there's an awful lot of "black power" surrounding this event. Hey, get it through your skull:

    1) IF YOU DIDN'T VOTE FOR OBAMA BECAUSE HE'S BLACK, YOU'RE A RACIST.
    2) IF YOU VOTED FOR OBAMA BECAUSE HE'S BLACK, YOU'RE A RACIST.

    I'm so tired of being accused of oppressing people with my existence because I happen to be white and male. To all those media people and others who are guilty of this, get over yourself. :rolleyes:

    And now, back to the Lincoln Memorial.
     
  10. Crabtownboy

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    As if we have not been taken to the cleaners the last 8 years. After all we were running a budget surplus when Clinton left office, but that was taken care of quickly by the "new Bush order."

    Give the make at least a year or two before making such statements. I am remaining in a neutral position until I see some action and works by the new administration.

    Obama is a very good speaker. Whether you agree with him or not does not change that fact. The same was true with Kennedy, a great speaker. The manner in which he gives a speech reminds me of listening to good old time preachers when I was a kid. I thought his remarks at the Lincoln Memorial were very good.
     
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    1/21? Why would they wait until then? There's a cross section of America that's already declared him a failure.
     
  12. Crabtownboy

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    You are right CC, there are those who will not take a wait and see approach. They had decided to declare him a failure when he was elected if not before. All you have to do is read some posts on this BB ... but then those posts are to be taken with a very large grain of salt.

    It took me about three years to decide that GB was a hopless disaster. I do wish him well in his post presidental years and I do appreciate it that he made the transition a good one. That is very much to his credit. I must admit I was not sure he would ... but he did. So there are now 4 things I appreciate about Bush.

    I wonder if those who seem to hate appreciate anything about him?
     
  13. BigBossman

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    I will say this. I didn't vote for the man. Not because he's black, not because he's popular, but because he's a liberal. Liberals are always bad news. Taxes go up, rights of individuals are restricted, & more laws are made.

    Of course I didn't vote for McCain either. He was a watered down conservative. I voted for Chuck Baldwin.

    Obama has a lot of weight on his shoulders now. We'll see if he can deliver on what he's promised. If he doesn't, there will be alot of angry voters out there. Next election, I'll ask myself the question, "Are you better off than you were four years ago?" That is what Ronald Reagan asked everyone during his 1980 campaign. We all know what answer the people gave.
     
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    Me too......
     
  15. Dragoon68

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    You're not fooling us with that line! The "economic mess" you reference has it origins in the social re-engineering efforts of the likes of Roosevelt, Carter, Clinton, and others mostly Democrats who've steadily and increasingly pushed the lending of money to people who couldn't pay it back in order to "make home ownership affordable to all". What that brought about was the inevitable failure of lenders heavily leveraged in such loans. That in turn drove up the cost of money to effect all of us including those who had paid all their debts on time and had lived and operated their businesses within their means. Bush contributed to the panic by advancing the idea of a bailout for financial institutions as an necessity to avoid economic collapse. In effect that only increased everyone's worries to the point the exchange of goods and services has slowed down as people adopt and wait and see attitude. The "right-wing economics" would have never permitted this chain of events to start a left the economy in the able hands of the capitalistic marketplace.
     
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