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Be ye not unequally yoked....

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by Salty, Feb 5, 2012.

  1. annsni

    annsni Well-Known Member
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    Get over yourself steaver. You have no idea. I'm yoked with unbelievers just by being a citizen of this country. I got some news for you. So are you. SURPRISE!!!!! Your president is a heathen!! You are yoked to him!!! BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
     
  2. steaver

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    I began voting with GWB, twice, then I voted for McCain last time.

    Do you see how I have no problem answering your questions. How about you tell us what the scripture in question means to you?
     
  3. steaver

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    If you don't understand the scripture Ann just admit as much. No need to get mad at me for asking you to give your understanding of it.
     
  4. targus

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    You have made no argument at all.

    What you are doing is proof texting.

    Proof texting is not a study of Scripture.

    Proof texting is simply pulling an isolated verse out of Scripture to "prove" a preconcieved opinion without regard for context.
     
  5. steaver

    steaver Well-Known Member
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    Still waiting for your application of the scripture..................

    Complaining about my application is not instructive.
     
  6. targus

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    Proof texting is not an "application of Scripture".

    Your belief that it is however is instructive.
     
  7. Arbo

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    Another example of a poor debating tactic.

    You give others homework, hoping to win an argument by picking apart their views on the subject. You will not go beyond a declaration of your opinion, refusing to actually explain why it is you believe what you believe. I really wonder if you even have thought it out, or if this conversation is merely a contest of some type to you.
     
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  8. Arbo

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    And why did you vote for them?
     
  9. steaver

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    Hmmm....more questions, but you won't answer any of mine.
     
  10. steaver

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    Post #7, #16, #28

    You need to read all the post, maybe you jumped in later or just missed them. Anyways, there they are, I explained why I believe the way I believe.

    Now how about you give it a shot? Read the scripture, might take a minute or two, then tell us how we should apply it to our lives.
     
  11. Arbo

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    Opinion with no Scripture cited to reinforce claim.

    Though I agree about being accountable, I consider the elected politician an employee. In the context of the relationship, he is not my equal. He is an employee.

    Nothing noteworthy here.

    As I said before, I believe the Scriptural reference to unequal yoking does not apply to this type of relationship. It is a nonissue with me. You may accuse me and others of ignoring what the Bible says of the subject, but that's okay. The absence of any better argument on your part, other than a declaration of what you think without a Scriptural reason for why you think it, causes me to conclude that you are either in a sense writing rules that aren't there or you don't know what you're talking about.
     
  12. billwald

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    Don't the majority of the people on BB doubt that the majority of professing Christians are true believers? OK, add that majority to the number of people who don't claim to be Christians and seems to me we are talking about a supermajority of US voters.

    Electing a "true believer" would be unequally yoking a super majority of the population.
     
  13. steaver

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    Opinion with no Scripture cited to reinforce claim.

    I believe the Scriptural reference to unequal yoking does apply to this type of relationship. The absence of any better argument on your part, other than a declaration of what you think without a Scriptural reason for why you think it, causes me to conclude that you are either in a sense writing rules that aren't there or you don't know what you're talking about.

    See how this doesn't help the debate any?

    Here's how debate works; I tell you how I believe the scripture should be applied and then you tell how you believe the scripture should be applied.

    Very simple. What we are lacking in this debate, with you and the others, is that no one has given their position as to how the scripture should be applied. If any of you would, then maybe iron could sharpen iron a bit. But nobody is even trying, they just want to ignore the text.
     
  14. steaver

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    Hey, Billwald! A new voice added into the debate, well, not much of a debate yet, no one will give their side of the application. Anyways, maybe you could give me your application of the scripture in question? Teach billwald! Teach! Give me something! No one wants to touch it!
     
  15. Arbo

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    I claim only personal opinion. Never anything else.

    You seem to be getting cranky. I think I'll find another sandbox to play in.
     
  16. Arbo

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    Good luck Billwald...:laugh:
     
  17. steaver

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    No need for luck Billwald.....just read the scripture and tell us how to apply it to our lives.
     
  18. steaver

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    "Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?" (2Cor6:14)

    We are looking for some input from the board as to how we should apply this to our lives.

    The scripture states "what communion hath light with darkness?"

    Communion;
    1) fellowship, association, community, communion, joint participation, intercourse
    a) the share which one has in anything, participation
    b) intercourse, fellowship, intimacy

    We see some key words here; association, participation

    One's vote cast for any particular person is participating in that person's endeavor to be their representative. Association is obvious.

    Do we understand what representative means here folks?????? I am beginning to wonder if folks understand how this system works.
     
  19. billwald

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    How much explaining does the visual picture of an ox yoked to horse require? Even if they both work at plowing the results will be inferior. Sounds like Congress.
     
  20. Salty

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    Bill excellent point! :thumbsup:
    Therefore, if a Born again Christan wins an election - with the votes of non Christian - then as Bill asserts that winner is now unequally yoked according to Steaver


    According to Wikepedia Yoke A yoke is a wooden beam, normally used between a pair of oxen or other animals to enable them to pull together on a load when working in pairs,...

    From Strongs

    Okay - interesting discussion but -
    As shown above, a yoke puts two together going the same direction without being able to be separated.

    This would be true of a marriage, business partnership, ect.

    However, this does not apply to voting - as I may speak out against the President or other elected official. I can move out of my apt if I disagree with the land lord, I may shop at a supermarket, but I can protest the fact he sells beer.
    I am not "yoked to those I listed in this paragraph.

    So Steaver - if in the fall the election would you vote for the moral non-born again Sanatorum or the professing Christian Obama?
     
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