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Is that your way of excusing yourself from what God has called every believer to?

 

Its my way of being totally honest and genuine.

 

All’s I got to say is that when and if it ever comes down to facing overwhelming odds by terrorists I hope those standing beside me are NOT one of those who believe they’ve been predestined to glorify God by obediently surrendering their head to them!

 

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You consider it honest and genuine to become snide with someone who has over and over again posted a wide array of scripture from various writers, all saying exactly the same thing?

 

Does it matter to you what the scriptures say? I can post another 15-20 passages saying the same thing.

 

James, you're cherry-picking and reading things into the scriptures which aren't there. The scriptures have a lot more to teach than just obediently surrendering your head to the enemy. For instance:

David, the man after God's own heart faced up to overwhelming odds in faith that he would be victorious.

Besides this, your reasoning follows along with the same pattern you use to support your scriptural interpretations:

You're merely question begging here. Many things could play into why these men didn't resist. Culture, threats of beatings and torture, etc.

Give me a break. Resistance is built upon many things.

I may have to start a new thread: “Predestination” - the Calvinists’ Scapegoat for their Actions?

 

Yes James, I was snarky....in response to your HTT pontificating snarkiness.

 

Or inaction.

 

Ok, I'll play along. I'm 10x holier than you.
Does my self righteousness negate God's word?

In my desire to make myself holier than you, have I misrepresented several half-chapters of scripture?


Regardless of whatever charge you can level against me, you haven't offered anything from scripture to indicate that I'm promoting a false view.

 

Cherry picking. Yup.

How about you start with a half chapter I quoted, Romans 8.

Show everybody how erratic Paul was in his writing. How he certainly couldn't have been talking about the same thing all the way through.

Show how I cherry picked one verse after the other.

Have I said anything to the contrary? I'm sure you can quote it if I have....right?

 

God through the Apostle Paul tells us:

Romans 12:18. If it be possible, as much as lieth in you, live peaceably with all men.

John Gill, who I expect endured a measure of persecution for the Lord Jesus Christ, comments on this verse as follows:

The bolded part above is particularly significant since we are facing an "antichrist"!

James if the country followed your opinion after 1941 we would likely be "goose stepping" or "worshipping the Emperor of Japan".

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The country ???

You think America is the New Israel? Theocracy?
This country is not the Promised Land, Americans aren't God's "chosen people"

So if a country chock full of godless people worship an Emperor, what business is that to Christians?

Oh, that's right. Christians live here, too. And we would fall down before the king, just like Daniel did. He worshiped Nebuchadnezzar in Babylon, and we would do the same.

But Daniel didn't do that. He trusted God, even in the Lions' den

 

You must got spring-loaded boots.

 

You have no excuse for insulting me James. I simply made an observation.

I strongly disagree with you there James. I believe this country is the greatest country in history. Perhaps you are letting a little of Obama rub off on you!

I never said they were but I expect that in 1940's the majority of people in this country were at least professing Christians.

Well James, it makes a big difference to me whether it does to you or not.

You are the one who has been preaching:

You should read the book before making such bold assertions.

But you are mistaken Daniel did resist the king!

I trust God also James and if he calls me to stretch my neck so an antichrist can get a clean swipe to behead me I hope I will be obedient. But in all honesty He would have to give ma a lot stronger heart than I have before I could live long enough to do it!

But it is a lot easier, JamesL, being self righteous in a country where Christians have not known persecution than in a country where they are routinely butchered!

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I know multiple combat vets from recent wars that watch most all of them then share and explain them on facebook as to raise awareness and get other people just as ticked as they are.

 

That's not really what it's about. There are plenty of ISIS videos with guys who don't have a mask on. I'd explain but you can google easily enough.