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Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by Benjamin, Sep 4, 2012.

  1. psalms109:31

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    God does want all men to be saved and come to the knowledge of the truth Jesus Christ and the wicked to repent and live, but we must turn away from our will and take on His will. We are responsible free agents. We are to give Him the glory for it is His work in us. All in Christ will be saved from the beginning to end.

    Psalm 73:28
    But it is good for me to draw near to God; I have put my trust in the Lord GOD, That I may declare all Your works.

    Jeremiah 48:7
    For because you have trusted in your works and your treasures, You also shall be taken. And Chemosh shall go forth into captivity, His priests and his princes together.

    Romans 4
    Abraham Justified by Faith

    4 What then shall we say that Abraham, our forefather according to the flesh, discovered in this matter? 2 If, in fact, Abraham was justified by works, he had something to boast about—but not before God. 3 What does Scripture say? “Abraham believed God, and it was credited to him as righteousness.”[Gen. 15:6; also in verse 22]

    4 Now to the one who works, wages are not credited as a gift but as an obligation. 5 However, to the one who does not work but trusts God who justifies the ungodly, their faith is credited as righteousness. 6 David says the same thing when he speaks of the blessedness of the one to whom God credits righteousness apart from works:

    7 “Blessed are those
    whose transgressions are forgiven,
    whose sins are covered.
    8 Blessed is the one
    whose sin the Lord will never count against them.”[Psalm 32:1,2]
     
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  2. HeirofSalvation

    HeirofSalvation Well-Known Member
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    And insinuating that non-cals on this board believe or teach such things is either dishonest or simply stupid.
     
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  3. SovereignMercy

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    Free-willers have a poor little jesus that died for and tries to save everyone but is failing miserably. He begs people to come and most of the blood he shed was in vain, he is also unaware and ignores a ton of scripture that he inspired about himself like these passages.

    And I also say to you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build My church, and the gates of Hades shall not prevail against it.

    He really meant i will try to build my church since you guys have free will and i as god have no power over you. :'(

    And she will bring forth a Son, and you shall call His name JESUS, for He will save His people from their sins.

    The angel here goofed and meant to say: he will try to save everyone from their sins, but will fail because everyone has that doggone free will.

    Then they said to Him, "What shall we do, that we may work the works of God?" Jesus answered and said to them, "This is the work of God, that you believe in Him whom He sent."

    What he really meant to say was this is the work of your free will that you believe.
    It is the Spirit who gives life; the flesh profits nothing. The words that I speak to you are spirit, and they are life.

    Boy, did your jesus goof here, he meant to say, it is the flesh that gives life the spirit tries but cannot overcome free will.

    I could go on and on...

    Your reinterpretation of all of these clear passages and a host of others show how free will believers really take the name of the Lord in vain, worse than people who swear. They don't go around telling everyone how much greater they are than God and that His sovereign will is subservient to theirs.

    "Not everyone who says to Me, 'Lord, Lord,' shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. Many will say to Me in that day, 'Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?' And then I will declare to them, 'I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!'
     
  4. HeirofSalvation

    HeirofSalvation Well-Known Member
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    You have little understanding of alternatives to Calvinism I think...These statements are simply, not in any real sense true. If someone in authority has actually "taught" you that these are true....then they were really rather irresponsible to do so:


     
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