1. Welcome to Baptist Board, a friendly forum to discuss the Baptist Faith in a friendly surrounding.

    Your voice is missing! You will need to register to get access to all the features that our community has to offer.

    We hope to see you as a part of our community soon and God Bless!

Featured Being haunted by Devils/Ghosts

Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by evangelist6589, Aug 1, 2013.

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. Jope

    Jope Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Aug 11, 2012
    Messages:
    658
    Likes Received:
    15
    Faith:
    Baptist
    Quite interestingly, Plato (c. 428/427 BC – 348/347 BC) confessed that most professors of medicine did not understand the foaming of the mouth or eyes (rheums).

    Luke, the beloved physician (1st century), tells us of an incident where foaming is from a demon, whom Christ rebukes and heals the victim (Lk. 9:38-42):

    ESV
    And behold, a man from the crowd cried out, “Teacher, I beg you to look at my son, for he is my only child.
    And behold, a spirit seizes him, and he suddenly cries out. It convulses him so that he foams at the mouth, and shatters him, and will hardly leave him.
    And I begged your disciples to cast it out, but they could not.”
    Jesus answered, “O faithless and twisted generation, how long am I to be with you and bear with you? Bring your son here.”
    While he was coming, the demon threw him to the ground and convulsed him. But Jesus rebuked the unclean spirit and healed the boy, and gave him back to his father.​

    Mark, whose occupation is untold in the Holy Writ, tells us that this same spirit was one that made its victim mute (Mark 9:17), and that Jesus claimed that this spirit, being responsible for other things like "often cast[ing] him into fire and into water, to destroy him" (Mark 9:22, ESV) doesn't come out but by prayer and fasting (Mark 9:29). Cf. a previous post of mine:

    David's prayer was for God to turn the counsel of Ahithophel into foolishness [to the subjective audience of Ahithophel's counsel]. Christ's statement is that, at least one spirit doesn't come out but by prayer and fasting...

    *I thought I'd add something interesting I found: Luke tells us that "he suddenly cries out" (9:39), while Mark tells us that the spirit made its victim mute (9:17). So the description of this man would've been someone who talked (or yelled out) when he shouldn't have, and didn't speak when he should have, not recognizing the right time to speak and to be silent:

    Ecclesiastes 3, ESV
    1For everything there is a season, and a time for every matter under heaven:
    ...
    7​​​​​​​​a time to tear, and a time to sew; ​​​​​​​a time to keep silence, and a time to speak; ​​​

    Plato says that, his own experience at least, of when the foaming happens is "when teaching or disputing in private or in public, and strifes and controversies arise".



    Perhaps a proper description of this man was that he was a highly learned suicidal man, who didn't have knowledge on how to properly teach or dispute, without strife, in public or private.
     
    #101 Jope, Aug 22, 2013
    Last edited by a moderator: Aug 22, 2013
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
Loading...