Bible Codes - and prophecy

Marcia -

You make a good point and you may well be right in applying it as you do to this case.

On the other hand - in John 4 Christ uses the interesting "opener" with the woman at the well of talking about water that will suffice so that she would never thirst again. (Which in some circles sounds like a wealth and prosperity tag line). But if you look closer at what He is saying you see that it is not physical water - but spiritual water of life through the Holy Spirit and the Word. A well spring of life springing up from within.

I doubt that this is what caught the womans' insterest at the start. She was probably thinking of something much more temporal.

In Christ,

Bob

 

The statistical science that is used for the Bible Code has to do with randomization techniques. The proof was published in statistical science (not based on the Bible) and was peer-reviewed to show that it had statitical validity.

The "proof" consisted of showing that the ELS system was a valid way to randomize any text (Bible or not).

I know some people like this - and others oppose it. I am just wondering if any oppose it based on math.

However the link given to the March 4 "Prophecy Code" does not actually cover the topic of the "Bible Code" rather - it just covers prophecy and what various prophecies mean.

In Christ,

Bob

 

Good point.

I gave 3 links. One to the Bible Code, one to a site that discusses the Da Vinci Code and one to the March 4 prophecy series. That last link uses a title that is "somewhat similar" to the other links. I did not mean to convey the idea that it too is covering topics on the Bible Code or the Da Vinci Code, just that it "Sounds" like it in name.

You can check my statement out at that link if you prefer.

"Prophecy Code: Bible Secrets Unlocked" http://www.prophecycode.org/

I went there and looked at the subjects covered and none of them appeared to be about anything other than classic topics and methods of understanding Prophecy about the end of the world.

In Christ,

Bob

 

Is that a math base treatement of the subject?

In the peer-reviewed statistics "proof" used in the popular Bible Codes material (ELS) the point was stated at the outset that finding 2 or more co-related words on a single grid was NOT an indicator of success.

Now if you had taken the more objective approach and said that given the same set of target words (the names of all major Rabbis in Judaism in the past 1500 years) then BOTH Mein Kampf and the Torah result in the SAME (relatively the same) level of completeness in terms of information using relatively LOW sequence skip levels -- THEN you would have an objective counter point.

I am not arguing that this can not be done. I am just calling for a level of objectivity.

Having said that - the point of the OP was not to defend or promote the Bible Codes project. It was to ask if the "Prophecy Code" series at the end has a title that is "too close" to the "Bible Codes" and would not be helpful.

Some have said that they think it is too close.

In Christ,

Bob

[ February 19, 2005, 05:15 PM: Message edited by: BobRyan ]

 

I agree with your point about prophecy which is why I am asking if the title for that series appears "too similar" to the entirely "different" idea of the Bible code.

However for clarity the statistical proof given for the Bible Code project is based on removing letters on fixed intervals and it claims that the smaller the intervale the more unnexpected the correlated grids are. It further specifies that simply finding a singe grid that has two related facts some place - is not really "proof" of encoding.

Hence the difference it makes between finding the names and places and birth years of all the well known Rabbis in a 500 year window - - and simply "finding one".

In Christ,

Bob

 

That is not the statistical argument. The argument from the "hard science" of statistics is that the lower the skip sequence - the more "improbable" the occurance of corelated terms.

So take a large document (many words - 25-35 letters in the lanaguage etc) and use a skip sequence of (take every 3rd or 4th letter for example) then arrange them in a grid and see what you get.

Something along those lines. The peer reviewed "mathematical proof" is published in the appendix of the book Bible Code.

However - just to clarify - this is not intended as support for - or a defense of that book. I am just clarifying "what it is".

And your POV that the title is too close to the title of the Bible Codes book - is duely noted.

Thank you for sharing your views on this.

In Christ,

Bob