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Bible Inerrancy Poll #2

Discussion in '2005 Archive' started by Ed Edwards, May 29, 2004.

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What does Bible Inerrancy mean to you?

  1. -1 the Bible has errors (i.e. is NOT inerrant)

    8 vote(s)
    8.0%

  2. 0 the Bible has minor errors but is still useful

    10 vote(s)
    10.0%

  3. 1 The Bible is inerrant on all doctrinal issues

    19 vote(s)
    19.0%

  4. 2 The Bible is inerrant on all issues: doctrinal, historic, and scientific

    49 vote(s)
    49.0%

  5. 3 The Bible is inerrant in the original autographs

    6 vote(s)
    6.0%

  6. 4 The Bible is inerrant only in the KJV1611 Authorized Version

    2 vote(s)
    2.0%

  7. 5 inerrant in any English translation based on the TR

    6 vote(s)
    6.0%

  8. 6 The Bible is inerrant in all faithful English translations

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%

  9. 7 the Bible is inerrant as applied by _______ (post person or group)

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
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  1. Ed Edwards

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    Thank you three new voters today:

    Poll Results: Bible Inerrancy Poll #2 (46 votes.)
    What does Bible Inerrancy mean to you?
    Choose 1

    -1 the Bible has errors (i.e. is NOT inerrant) 7% (3)
    0 the Bible has minor errors but is still useful 0% (0)
    1 The Bible is inerrant on all doctrinal issues 15% (7)
    2 The Bible is inerrant on all issues: doctrinal, historic, and scientific 22% (10)
    3 The Bible is inerrant in the original autographs 39% (18)
    4 The Bible is inerrant only in the KJV1611 Authorized Version 4% (2)
    5 inerrant in any English translation based on the TR 2% (1)
    6 The Bible is inerrant in all faithful English translations 11% (5)
    7 the Bible is inerrant as applied by _______ (post person or group) 0% (0)

    Sometimes I wonder why the three voters
    on the "minus 1" are around?
    The SOF of the Board is INERRANCY.
     
    #21 Ed Edwards, Jul 14, 2004
  2. Ed Edwards

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    Thank you, two new voters!

    They both voted:

    3 The Bible is inerrant in the original autographs 42% (20)
     
    #22 Ed Edwards, Jul 21, 2004
  3. Ed Edwards

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    Thank you, one new voter!

    They voted:

    0 the Bible has minor errors but is still useful 2% (1)
     
    #23 Ed Edwards, Jul 24, 2004
  4. Ed Edwards

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    I always get more votes at the top [​IMG]
     
    #24 Ed Edwards, Sep 10, 2004
  5. Ed Edwards

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    Thank you voter #50.
    Your vote is very appreciated.
     
    #25 Ed Edwards, Sep 11, 2004
  6. Ed Edwards

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    Thank you voters 51, 52, and 53.
    Your participation is welcome!!!
     
    #26 Ed Edwards, Sep 14, 2004
  7. Ed Edwards

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    Thank you voter #54.
    Your vote is appreciated.
     
    #27 Ed Edwards, Sep 15, 2004
  8. Ed Edwards

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    Thank you voter 55 - your vote is appreciated!
     
    #28 Ed Edwards, Sep 16, 2004
  9. Ed Edwards

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    If this had been on the front page,
    a semi-duplicate poll could have
    been avoied.
     
    #29 Ed Edwards, Nov 26, 2004
  10. Bluefalcon

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    To say the Bible is inerrant in all faithful English translations is to say that all "faithful" Bible translators and editors are inerrant in their choice of the correct/inerrant Greek words to translate wherever variants arise in the Greek manuscript tradition; how totally absurd!

    Yours,

    Bluefalcon
     
    #30 Bluefalcon, Nov 26, 2004
  11. Ed Edwards

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    Thank you voter #56.
    Thank you voter #57.
    Your participation is appreciated.

    Then Bro. BlueFalcon,
    Then count me among the absurd for Jesus
    (formerly "Jesus Phreaque").
    If i have no problem with multiple
    inerrant English Bibles, I'll have no
    problem with multiple inerrant Greek
    Bibles.
     
    #31 Ed Edwards, Nov 26, 2004
  12. Bluefalcon

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    Mt. 8:18 (ESV): Now when Jesus saw a great crowd around him, he gave orders to go over to the other side.

    Mt. 8:18 (NASB): Now when Jesus saw a crowd around Him, He gave orders to depart to the other side of the sea.

    Mt. 8:18 (HCSB): When Jesus saw large crowds around Him, He gave the order to go to the other side of the sea.

    All three translations are based on three different readings among all Greek manuscripts. The law of non-contradiction says that all can't be "inerrant", and so to say that all English translations are "inerrant" is totally absurd, period.

    Yours,

    Bluefalcon
     
    #32 Bluefalcon, Nov 27, 2004
  13. Ed Edwards

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    I hope you didn't mark answer #6
    Brother Bluefalcon [​IMG]

    Thank you voter #58
    Thank you voter #59
    Thank you voter #60
    Thank you voter #61
    Your votes are appreciated.

    New Votes (15)

    Poll Results: Bible Inerrancy Poll #2 (15 New votes.)
    What does Bible Inerrancy mean to you?
    Choose 1

    -1 the Bible has errors (i.e. is NOT inerrant) -- (0)
    0 the Bible has minor errors but is still useful -- (1)
    1 The Bible is inerrant on all doctrinal issues 15% -- (1)
    2 The Bible is inerrant on all issues: doctrinal, historic, and scientific -- (3)
    3 The Bible is inerrant in the original autographs -- (8)
    4 The Bible is inerrant only in the KJV1611 Authorized Version -- (2)
    5 inerrant in any English translation based on the TR -- (0)
    6 The Bible is inerrant in all faithful English translations -- (0)
    7 the Bible is inerrant as applied by _______ (post person or group) -- (0)


    Total votes:

    Poll Results: Bible Inerrancy Poll #2 (61 votes.)
    What does Bible Inerrancy mean to you?
    Choose 1

    -1 the Bible has errors (i.e. is NOT inerrant) 5% (3)
    0 the Bible has minor errors but is still useful 2% (1)
    1 The Bible is inerrant on all doctrinal issues 13% (8)
    2 The Bible is inerrant on all issues: doctrinal, historic, and scientific 21% (13)
    3 The Bible is inerrant in the original autographs 43% (26)
    4 The Bible is inerrant only in the KJV1611 Authorized Version 7% (4)
    5 inerrant in any English translation based on the TR 2% (1)
    6 The Bible is inerrant in all faithful English translations 8% (5)
    7 the Bible is inerrant as applied by _______ (post person or group) 0% (0)

    Over half the new votes were for #3, the "original autographs" answer.
     
    #33 Ed Edwards, Nov 27, 2004
  14. Ed Edwards

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    The summary of 61 votes:

    -1 to 2, more liberal than "original autographs" --- 41% (25)
    3 The Bible is inerrant in the original autographs - 43% (26)
    4-7, more conservative than "original autographs" -- 17% (10)
     
    #34 Ed Edwards, Nov 27, 2004
  15. Ed Edwards

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    Thank you voter #62
    Thank you voter #63
    Your votes are appreciated.
     
    #35 Ed Edwards, Nov 30, 2004
  16. TC

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    Sure they can. What doctrine has been changed by an adjective describing the size of the crowd?

    It all depends on how you define inerrant. What definition are you using?
     
    #36 TC, Dec 1, 2004
  17. Dr. Bob

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    Here are a few LEADING HISTORIC FUNDAMENTALISTS and their view to help:

    JOHN GIRARDEAU
    Are translations inspired? The translation was effected by fallible men, and therefore contains some errors... The translators were uninspired men, and consequently liable to mistakes; the translation is inspired, so far it exactly gives the original — so far, no more.

    JAMES M. GRAY
    There is no translation absolutely without error, nor could there be, considering the infirmities of human copyists, unless God were pleased to perform a perpetual miracle to secure it.

    JOHN R. RICE
    A perfect translation of the Bible is humanly impossible. The words in one language do not have exactly the same color and meaning as opposite words in another language, and human frailty and imperfection enter in. So, let us say, there are no perfect translations.

    WILLIAM BELL RILEY
    To claim, therefore, inerrancy for the King James Version, or even for the Revised Version, is to claim inerrancy for men who never professed it for themselves; is to clothe with the claim of verbal inspiration a company of men who would almost quit their graves to repudiate such equality with Prophet and Apostle.

    CHARLES HADDON SPURGEON
    I do not hesitate to say that I believe that there is no mistake whatever in the original Holy Scriptures from beginning to end. There may be, and there are MISTAKES of translation — for translators are NOT INSPIRED — but even the historical facts are correct... there is not an error in the whole compass of them. These words come from him who can make no mistake, and who can have no wish to deceive his creatures.

    [copied from another thread]
     
    #37 Dr. Bob, Dec 1, 2004
  18. stevec

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    You're welcome. I'm in there somewhere.
     
    #38 stevec, Dec 1, 2004
  19. Ed Edwards

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    Thank you voter #64!
    Thank you voter #65!
    Thank you voter #66!
    Your votes are appreciated.
     
    #39 Ed Edwards, Dec 1, 2004
  20. Ed Edwards

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    Thank you voter #67!
    Your votes are appreciated.
     
    #40 Ed Edwards, Dec 2, 2004
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