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Bible Poll

Discussion in '2004 Archive' started by citizenofheaven, Sep 13, 2004.

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  1. KJB-- "wicked...His ways are always grievious"

    85.7%
  2. NIV-- "wicked...His ways are always prosperous"

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  3. NKJV-- "wicked...His ways are always prospering"

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  4. ESV-- "wicked...His ways prosper at all times"

    14.3%
  5. HCSV-- "wicked...His ways are always secure"

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  1. michelle

    michelle New Member

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    Baloney. I believe things because I have reason to. 1 Peter 3:15 But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts: and be ready always to give an answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear:
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    You miss the point that you are to give a reason to unbelievers for your faith. You are NEVER TO REASON the TRUTH in the scriptures for your belief in them, but have FAITH IN THEM.


    Faith is contrary to Reason. Please read
    Hebrews 11. Also read Matt.16:6-12, Mark 2:6-8, Mark 8:14-21.


    love in Jesus Christ our Lord and Saviour,
    michelle
     
  2. Trotter

    Trotter <img src =/6412.jpg>

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    Michelle,

    Anyone can 'cut-and-paste' anything to make it say what they want...oh, I forgot...you're already adept at it.

    Try looking at the whole verse instead of just a portion.

    Typical KJVO propaganda. Not a whit of truth to be found in it.

    In Christ,
    Trotter
     
  3. Trotter

    Trotter <img src =/6412.jpg>

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    Besides, Scripture is more than what is sandwiched between the covers of a KJV.

    Scripture is also found between the covers of NKJV, NIV, NASB, ESV, WEB, etc, etc. Your KJV does not hold the corner of that market.

    In Christ,
    Trotter
     
  4. GrannyGumbo

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    "Some" scripture may be found sandwiched between the covers of all those you listed, but "ALL" scripture is contained within the pages of my Holy Bible; and it's perfect, just like the Author.
     
  5. michelle

    michelle New Member

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    Amen!!!Sister Granny.


    love in Jesus Christ our Lord and Saviour,
    michelle
     
  6. natters

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    michelle said "You are NEVER TO REASON the TRUTH in the scriptures for your belief in them, but have FAITH IN THEM."

    Faith does not preclude reason, reason does not preclude faith.

    Look, I'm not trying to get you to use your brain. If you don't want to, that's your choice and that's fine with me. As for me, I will use the gift God gave me.
     
  7. citizenofheaven

    citizenofheaven New Member

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    The same portions of the same verses were given in each example. The only way that the poll could have been biased was by having the King James at the top of each list. would you like me to rewrite the poll, changing the orders?
     
  8. Bro Tony

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    Plain old Ralph,

    By this statement you have proved yourself plain old ignorant. You have shown yourself to be a plain old slanderer of the Word of God. What you KJVOist cannot see is that it is you and your camp that continues to attack the Word of God. I have yet to read one attack of the KJV by thoses who use MV. It might be good for you to get the plain old truth before you make such ludicrist statements.

    Bro Tony
     
  9. Ed Edwards

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    That isn't what makes
    your poll bad. There was plenty else.

    1. You had to check an extra block
    so you would get"You may not view the results of this poll without voting."
    That was not a good thing to do. Some people,
    like me, would give you the vote you want just
    to help your self esteam. I saw some polls on
    Rapture Ready once that Said "Please say Yes".
    THe possible replies were YES and NO.
    About 8% said NO. But no, you went out of your
    way to make it so a person can't get the
    right answer, even if they want to do that.

    Please tell us the answers from time to time.
    Thank you.

    2. The first few questions, I cannot answer.
    My answer is "None of the above" or maybe
    "No opinion" or even "Don't know". But that
    answer is not availavble. I will not lie,
    even to see the answers.

    3. The one i checked (see my post above) is
    deceptive. The KJV is just like the others,
    only you deliberately misquote the KJV to
    make it seem like they are different.
    That is not nice at all.

    4. I probably have some other stuff to say
    but i promised some folks i'd be nice on
    this Forum.

    [​IMG] Praise Iesus [​IMG]
     
  10. citizenofheaven

    citizenofheaven New Member

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    The question was not whether the poll was bad in general, but whether it was biased.

    I did not have to click any extra box to bar non-voters from seeing the results. I don't know where you got the idea that I did. Have you never posted a poll before? Whatever the cause, please don't tell me what I did when you don't know.

    Also, why does a person have to see the results to "get the right answer"?

    If your answer is ""None of the above" or maybe
    "No opinion" or even "Don't know"." I'm praying for you.

    I did not deliberately misqoute anything. All I could tell from your post is that the sidenote disagrees with my quote. Last time I checked, I wasn't quoting sidenotes.
     
  11. Ed Edwards

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    Citizenofheaven: "The question was not whether the poll was bad in general, but whether it was biased."

    That was some other person's question.
    I have both. IMHO the poll was bad in general.
    IMHO the poll was biased.

    Citizenofheaven: "I did not have to click any extra box to bar non-voters from seeing the results. I don't know where you got the idea that I did. Have you never posted a poll before? Whatever the cause, please don't tell me what I did when you don't know."

    Sorry. You probably haven't figured out how on the
    forum page's list of topics to change
    "Show topics from last 60 days" to
    "Show topics from the beginning". If you did,
    you will see that i've started 3/4 of the polls
    in this forum.

    Obviously there is a way to start a poll so one is stuck with
    the saying "You may not view the results of this poll without voting".
    They way i make a poll, it is an option, a square that needs
    to be checked.

    Citizenofheaven: "//Also, why does a person have to see the results to "get the right answer"?//

    Sorry, i was too subtle when i insulted you.
    I have to do that to stay on the board.
    My implication was that your purpose was to get
    the "right response". You did the poll wrong to accoumplish
    your purose. But I'm not allowed to try to figure out
    folks purpose here anymore; you can, but i can't.

    IMHO what you want to agrue is that the MVs are different
    from the KJB. Unfortunately you seem not to know (though
    i put in every thread i can) that i've got three DIFFERENT
    books on my computer desk each one of which is the
    KING JAMES VERSION. I quoted one of them earlier
    in this thread. Which one is your KJB? (upon request
    i'll give you a quick-&-dirty check you can make).

    Citizenofheaven: //If your answer is ""None of the above" or maybe
    "No opinion" or even "Don't know"." I'm praying for you.//

    Thank you, I need all the prayer help I can get.
    Here is what i'm pryaying for you:

    Father God in HEaven, please put some strong blessings
    upon Siblingofheaven, their family, and their ministry
    yea, this very day. Amen.

    Citizenofheaven: "I did not deliberately misqoute anything. All I could tell from your post is that the sidenote disagrees with my quote. Last time I checked, I wasn't quoting sidenotes."

    Don't get into the KJVO double standard where the
    not-KJVO cannot use KJV sidenotes to defend the non-KJVO
    position; but the KJVO can use MV footnotes to bust
    the MVs. Thank you for never mentioning margin notes again.

    For those who need some help with my trailer:
    It is the spelling of the word "Jesus" from
    the REAL King James Version of 1611, not the waterdowned
    version of the King James from 1769 that most call
    their KJB.

    [​IMG] Praise Iesus [​IMG]

    (Notice the Baptist Graemlin: only waving
    one hand at a time, both feet stay firmly
    on the ground)
     
  12. Pastor_Bob

    Pastor_Bob Well-Known Member

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    It has always been my impression that Christians were to be "kind one to another," "tenderhearted (Eph. 4:32)," "display love, gentleness, and goodness (Gal. 5:22)," because it was the right thing to do; not because it was required to remain on an Internet Forum. :confused:
     
  13. Ed Edwards

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    Amen Brother Pastor_Bob Sir!

    Would you mind posting the results of this
    poll? Thank you.
     
  14. Pastor_Bob

    Pastor_Bob Well-Known Member

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    I have not voted; therefore, I have not seen the results. I would not be opposed in the least if citizenofheaven, as the originator of the poll, would like to post the results thus far.
     
  15. KJVBibleThumper

    KJVBibleThumper New Member

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    This is just my opinion but it sure sounds like an awful lot of people are dodging the question. [​IMG] [​IMG]
    In Christ,
    KJVBibleThumper
     
  16. Trotter

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    Actually, Thumper, a whole lot of people want to be able to see the verses uncut, instead of "selected" snippets.

    Very few modern translations utilize the exact wording of the KJV. So, by only pasting the corresponding portion, Citizen has removed most of the similarities.

    "Biased" is not a strong enough word.

    If any non-KJVO started a poll using the same tactics, there would be a lynch mob screaming for blood.

    In Christ,
    Trotter
     
  17. Ed Edwards

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    From #5:

    ESV-- "The words of a whisperer are like dainty morsels"

    ESV-- "The words of a whisperer are deliciou morsels"


    Obviously a typo.
     
  18. AVL1984

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    Just as much as it is in the MV's. ALL Scripture is there, too, Granny. It is true to it's underlying texts, and that is "all". [​IMG]

    AVL1984
     
  19. AVL1984

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    Believe me, it IS just your opinion. :eek: Nobody is dodging the question. But polls set up with a bias are about as honest as Dan Rather on the Bush documents from 60 Minutes II. :eek: :eek: One cannot set up an uneven poll and expect to get an unbiased, honest answer. :rolleyes:

    AVL1984
     
  20. AVL1984

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    You're right, Trotter! Most KJVO's get sort of antsy when their "tricks" are exposed for what they are. They want to scream and holler bloody murder when MV backers use their own tactics against them. :eek: I guess what's good for the goose isn't good for the gander in their particular case, now is it? ;)

    AVL1984
     
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