1. Welcome to Baptist Board, a friendly forum to discuss the Baptist Faith in a friendly surrounding.

    Your voice is missing! You will need to register to get access to all the features that our community has to offer.

    We hope to see you as a part of our community soon and God Bless!

Biblical Cessationism

Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by 37818, Jun 25, 2022.

  1. 37818

    37818 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 23, 2018
    Messages:
    16,049
    Likes Received:
    1,241
    Faith:
    Baptist
  2. Alan Gross

    Alan Gross Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 16, 2018
    Messages:
    5,514
    Likes Received:
    453
    Faith:
    Baptist
    The Special Instantaneous Miraculous Gifts were only Given to The Twelve and The 70. No other Record of anyone else, ever.

    Those Miraculous Gifts ceased.
     
    • Friendly Friendly x 1
  3. 37818

    37818 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 23, 2018
    Messages:
    16,049
    Likes Received:
    1,241
    Faith:
    Baptist
    You might what to explain how you came to this view point.

    1 Corinthians 12:1-31 with 1 Corinthians 14:1-40 suggests @Alan Gross you maybe mistaken.
     
  4. Alan Gross

    Alan Gross Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 16, 2018
    Messages:
    5,514
    Likes Received:
    453
    Faith:
    Baptist
    28 And God hath set some in the church, first apostles, secondarily prophets, thirdly teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, governments, diversities of tongues.

    These are different from the ' Special Instantaneous Miraculous Gifts'.

    There are plenty of 'gifts', today, that are not Special Instantaneous Miraculous Gifts.

    The Special Instantaneous Miraculous Gifts are claimed, today, but you don't see them going to Saint Jude Hospital.

    They, we know, are mistaken.
     
    • Friendly Friendly x 1
  5. SavedByGrace

    SavedByGrace Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 14, 2020
    Messages:
    10,152
    Likes Received:
    441
    Faith:
    Baptist
    If as is argued, especially by the "Reformed", that the Spiritual Gifts have ceased in the Church, then the first-hand accounts by the early Church Fathers, are untrue. Their personal testimonies are clear that these Gifts were still very much part of the Church, 100's of years after the New Testament was Written

    ETS I: My Paper on the Continuation of the Charismata
     
  6. Marooncat79

    Marooncat79 Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Oct 21, 2014
    Messages:
    3,573
    Likes Received:
    627
    Faith:
    Baptist
    Most 2nd century Cians are on record as saying that the miracles died out with the last Apostle

    by this it was held that miracles did happen; however, there were no real persons who had the ability to do it like the Apostles

    there were a few (Montanists) who believed they were still in vogue in the 2nd century.

    BTW, Montanists also believed in female pastors - so there’s that
     
    • Informative Informative x 1
  7. SavedByGrace

    SavedByGrace Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 14, 2020
    Messages:
    10,152
    Likes Received:
    441
    Faith:
    Baptist
    so you saying that the Church fathers, who reported what they saw that took place, were either mistaken, or lying?
     
  8. Van

    Van Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Mar 4, 2011
    Messages:
    26,995
    Likes Received:
    1,021
    Faith:
    Baptist
    The sign and wonder miracles to authenticate the New Testament have ceased according to scripture. However, God still works miracles to this day.
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
  9. Alan Gross

    Alan Gross Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 16, 2018
    Messages:
    5,514
    Likes Received:
    453
    Faith:
    Baptist
    What is it that The Holy Spirit and the Word of God, together, can't do? ( besides sim, etc.)

    "I am the God of all flesh, is anything too hard for Me".
     
  10. 37818

    37818 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 23, 2018
    Messages:
    16,049
    Likes Received:
    1,241
    Faith:
    Baptist
    Romans 1:16, ". . . For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the | miracle |
    of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; . . ."
     
    • Winner Winner x 1
  11. Van

    Van Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Mar 4, 2011
    Messages:
    26,995
    Likes Received:
    1,021
    Faith:
    Baptist
    Can't do or chose not to do?
     
Loading...