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Biblical Defense of NASBO Beliefs

Discussion in '2003 Archive' started by Ransom, Jun 1, 2003.

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  1. Ransom

    Ransom Active Member

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    I wish to give a Biblical defense of why I accept the New American Standard Bible as the perfect word of God. This will take several posts so please be patient.

    In Matt. 4:4 the Bible states that we are to live by every word that proceeds out of the mouth of God. In order for me to live by those words, I must have those words written down in a book (or have a perfect memory). According to Psalms 12:6-7, God said that His words were "pure words" and he promised that all generations would have his perfect written word.

    I can't read Greek, Hebrew, Latin, Aramaic, etc., but I can read English. In 1960 God moved upon the hearts of men to produce the New American Standard Bible so that the English speaking world would have his written perfect word. Using the original language texts as well as the previous English translations, the New American Standard translators (with God's help) produced a perfect English Bible that has lasted almost 40 years.
     
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  2. Dr. Bob

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    Always enjoy your satire. Easy target. Your logic is just as "invalid" as the AV-onlies and quite humorous! :D :D
     
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  3. neal4christ

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    Hey, I like your reasoning. But you have the wrong Bible. The English Standard Version is THE perfect Word of God. :D [​IMG] [​IMG]

    Neal
     
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  4. Arubian Baptist

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    I thought New World Translation of the Holy Scriptures. was the perfect word of God...

    After al, it is based on the same text the modern versions are based on, they leave the same words out, they changed the same words, and they leave the same verses out...

    It gotta be the perfect word of God!!!

    Time to change your bible to the BEST one New World Translation of the Holy Scriptures. [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]
     
    #4 Arubian Baptist, Jun 2, 2003
  5. Ben W

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    Strange that God would use the language of English to supply his perfect word. What was it that was wrong with all the other people that spoke other languages?

    Why not originate the perfect word into Hebrew, the language of the church that we were grafted into.

    ;)
     
    #5 Ben W, Jun 2, 2003
  6. kman

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    And I suppose the 1995 Update was just to correct printer's errors?

    ;)
     
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  7. Rev. Joshua

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    kman, you obviously didn't drink the right Kool Aid. You're supposed to use the 1995 while still refrerring to it as the 1960. That way, everyone will be too confused to realize that the perfect translation was revised - and that most people use the revision.

    :)

    Joshua

    P.S. NASB-only's know that we should "follow the blood." I once got a nasty papercut using an NASB for sword drills; so don't tell me it doesn't have a bloody history!
     
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  8. AV Defender

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    Why would you want to do that?? Why would you want a "bible" that has two gods??
    NASb:No one has seen God at any time;the only begotten God who is in the bosom of the Father, He has explained Him.
    KJB:No man hath seen God at any time, the only begotten Son , which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.
    As you can see,TWO gods!!
    And why would you want somthing that denies God was manifest in the flesh??

    Look at 1st John 4:3(KJB)for an answer for that, ,"And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.".Defence of the NASb? Way to go!!
     
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  9. Anti-Alexandrian

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    Obviously you can't.
    Don't sit there and tell that one! Read it,memorize it,"use" it,but don't call it a bible! It started as the NASV .
    Real funny :rolleyes: .But I wouldn't quit my day job just yet. [​IMG]
     
    #9 Anti-Alexandrian, Jun 2, 2003
  10. Japheth

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    You really should be ashamed for that!1st Cor 1:18,Colossians 1:20!!!!
     
    #10 Japheth, Jun 2, 2003
  11. Ransom

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    Arubian Baptist said:

    I thought New World Translation of the Holy Scriptures. was the perfect word of God...

    After al, it is based on the same text the modern versions are based on,

    Sorry, but:

    First, I do not accept your reasoning that just because I do not believe that the King James Bible is exclusively the Word of God for English speakers, I am therefore bound to accept as the Word of God everything that calls itself a Bible, including the King James, New World Translation, Book of Mormon, and The Linux Bible. The reason I do not accept it is the following: It is nonsense.

    Second, I do not accept your uninspired and fallible argument from the manuscript evidence, which is fundamentally an argument from history. Jesus said we are not able to properly read the times (Matt. 16:3) and so I do not see any reason to accept your interpretation of history.

    I argued from the Scriptures. If there is a problem with my Scriptural argument for NASB-onlyism, please do me the favour of refuting it. Thank you.
     
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  12. Ransom

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    JYD said:

    Why would you want to do that??

    Because in this apostate Laodicean age, God's perfectly preserved Word of God, the New American Standard Bible, is under attack like never before in its history.

    I noticed that you completely ignored my entire argument and went off on a rabbit trail of your own. Do you have an objection to my Scriptural defense of the New American Standard Bible? If so, please present it, or concede that I speak truth.
     
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  13. Ransom

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    MV-neverist said:

    MV-neverist, I notice that you are the third person to ignore my Biblical argument why the NASB is the perfect and inerrant Word of God for the English-speaking peoples. Please either admit that my argument is sound, or show me why it is not. Thank you. I will now humour you by addressing your other, non-Scriptural, arguments.

    Don't sit there and tell that one! Read it,memorize it,"use" it,but don't call it a bible! It started as the NASV

    Irrelevant. The opinions of the translators are not inspired, nor is what they chose to put on the title page. I'm interested in only the words of God, as perfectly preserved in the text of the New American Standard Bible.
     
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  14. Rev. Joshua

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    Japheth,

    I think the people who should be ashamed are the ones who use the argument that - because the KJV was the translation-of-choice when some people were martyred - it must be the perfect Bible. I couldn't resist the opportunity to contribute to a parody that makes every bit as much sense as the KJVO position (which I thought was a parody until I came here).

    Joshua
     
    #14 Rev. Joshua, Jun 2, 2003
  15. Japheth

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    No,it's a free country;but I agree with the below however:


    " Read it,memorize it,"use" it,but don't call it a bible!"
     
    #15 Japheth, Jun 2, 2003
  16. Japheth

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    Yeah,right! 1st Cor 1:18,Colossians 1:20,and Jeremiah 8:12 is still in the Bible,and still true!!
     
    #16 Japheth, Jun 2, 2003
  17. Dr. Bob

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    What does the "V" in AV1611 stand for?

    What does the "V" in KJV stand for?

    You may not change history and rewrite it. It stands for VERSION. The baby-baptizing Anglicans who translated a few Greek (and Latin) documents called it a VERSION of the Bible.

    Now folks have the audacity to call it a BIBLE, changing the infallible words of the AV1611 translators themselves!

    BTW, what does the "B" in NASB stand for?
     
    #17 Dr. Bob, Jun 2, 2003
  18. AV Defender

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    No,but if you would look at the history of the KJB,you would have known it was called the Holy Bible before it was bombarded by Alexandrian visions.
     
    #18 AV Defender, Jun 2, 2003
  19. Arubian Baptist

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    Since The New World Translation of the Holy Scriptures is based on the same manuscripts as the NASB and they changend and took out and left out whole verese on the same places as the NASB, whether you like it or not, thats the case, I would say that The New World Translation of the Holy Scripturesis the perfect word of God...but okay, I am a reasonable man, both the NASB and The New World Translation of the Holy Scriptures are THE PERFECT WORD OF GOD!!!!

    And please if you do not agree, biblical reasoning please!!! But.......remember, both bibles are based on the same text, so you better watch it, you might give the reason why your NASB is NOT the perfect word of God :D
     
    #19 Arubian Baptist, Jun 2, 2003
  20. Daniel David

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    Well then that settles it. Where is a match for a good old fashion book burning when you need it?
     
    #20 Daniel David, Jun 2, 2003
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