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Biden's son a crook ?

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by Bro. Curtis, Sep 2, 2008.

  1. Bro. Curtis

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    With all the new-found morality on the part of the liberals criticism of Palin's pregnant teen-aged daughter, it looks like Joe Biden had some parental flaws, as well.....but I don't expect anybody from the left to think it's a big deal.

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    The legal actions have been playing out in New York State Supreme Court since 2007, and they focus on Hunter and James Biden's involvement in Paradigm Companies LLC, a hedge fund group. Hunter Biden, a Washington lobbyist, briefly served as president of the firm.
    A lawsuit filed by their former partner Anthony Lotito Jr. asserts in court papers that the deal was crafted to get Hunter Biden out of lobbying because his father was concerned about the impact it would have on his bid for the White House. Biden was running for the Democratic nomination at the time the suit was filed.
    Hunter Biden was made president with an annual salary of $1.2 million, despite his inexperience in the hedge fund industry, the lawsuit said. Before that, he had been part of the Washington law firm Oldaker, Biden & Belair, which earned $1.76 million in lobbying revenue in the first half of 2006, according to Congressional Quarterly's CQ MoneyLine. One of its biggest clients is the National Association of Shareholder and Consumer Attorneys, a District-based group representing law firms specializing in investment and corporate law.
    Hunter Biden is one of many children and relatives of prominent members of Congress who have made their careers as lobbyists. He returned to lobbying after less than a year with Paradigm.
    Lotito's lawsuit alleges that James Biden called him in January 2006 to arrange a job for Hunter Biden. It says James Biden told him that his brother (Sen. Biden) "was concerned with the impact that Hunter's lobbying activities might have on his expected campaign for the 2008 Democratic presidential nomination," and, "Biden told Lotito that, in light of these concerns, his brother had asked him to seek Lotito's assistance in finding employment for Hunter in a non-lobbying capacity."
    Lotito does not provide any direct evidence of the senator's involvement and offers no witnesses to the assertion.
    The campaign of Sens. Barack Obama and Biden declined to comment on the case, referring questions to Nicholas Gravante Jr., a lawyer representing Hunter and James Biden. Gravante said assertions that Joseph Biden told his brother he was concerned about his son's lobbying are "absolutely false."





    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/08/23/AR2008082302200.html?dbk
     
  2. donnA

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    Anyone who thinks Palin's pregnant daughter is a 'big deal' will equally have to view this as a 'big deal'.
    Of course pregnancy is not illegal in this country.
     
  3. LadyEagle

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    Yep, I'm waiting for the lefties to come out and explain this one away. :laugh:

    Perhaps, it's just better if, like Obama and Biden both said, we leave the kids out of it.....
     
  4. Crabtownboy

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    Neither issue is a big deal when it comes to whether either candidate is qualified to be VP or not. Let's take McCain and Obama's advise, leave the families alone on this type of issue.
     
  5. JerryL

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    Like I said in an earlier thread, the kids should be left out. Hers and his.
     
  6. JustChristian

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    Did you think Bill Clinton's affair was a "big deal?"
     
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    Don't Americans believe that the accused person is innocent until proven guilty? From the article:

    "This lawsuit has nothing to do with Joe Biden, and there is absolutely no truth to those allegations," Gravante said. "It is a business dispute between former partners. The suit is baseless."
     
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    Do you think the two are comparable?
     
  9. donnA

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    I quite agree. But the lefties will use the pregnancy against Palin, yet skip right over this. If they want to use one, they must answer to the other one.
     
  10. donnA

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    Despicable, but not illegal.
     
  11. JerryL

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    I see people from both sides saying this is a non issue on both stories of the kids.
     
  12. webdog

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    What would happen if you or I did that on the job? You think we would still have a job?
     
  13. Bro. Curtis

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    The reason I brought it up was the three threads I saw on Palin's kid.
     
  14. LeBuick

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    I agree but I thought the kids were off limits. I hope we Christians don't go that low.
     
  15. YOUTUBECANBESAVED

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    Obama was savaged for weeks on this board

    after we were finally getting some consensus not to go after family, this gets posted and the initial post was posted by RevM, whom we still do not know whom he is supporting along with a lot of other Obama bashers.



    Obama is right

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OILfonYF0bU
     
  16. Bro. Curtis

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    I never said family was off limits. Look at what ASLANSPAL used to say about Jeb Bush. He was disqualified just by being a brother.
     
  17. YOUTUBECANBESAVED

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    ???

    I do not know anything about Jeb Bush or asianspal??? but Barack Obams is doing the right thing.

    I really think the people on this board do not like the idea of family being savaged on this board . That is one thing we can all agree on, right Brother Curtis.
     
  18. Bro. Curtis

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    Yeah, so Jeb Bush could make a run, and nobody would bring up his brother, right ?


    :laugh:


    I say family, like associations, are not off limits. I'm even mad at John Edward's wife, and say she's open to criticism. Just like Jackie Kennedy, who allowed her husband's cheating, and put our country at risk. Chelsea Clinton can be criticized for refusing to get in a limo with uniformed marines. Lynne Cheney was pretty savaged on this board, the difference is she handled it like an adult.
     
  19. YOUTUBECANBESAVED

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    but don't you think family and children should be off limits, like the board was moving towards and then it is thrust back into. I agree with Barack Obama and take the high road , that is all that I am trying to get across. Btw who are you supporting?
     
  20. Bro. Curtis

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    I just said I don't think that. Family is not off limits.

    Obama took the high road ? Yeah, it's just his campaign doing the cheap shots. He doesn't fool me a bit.

    And I support grass roots politicians, running as constitutional adherents, who don't believe we should be the world's police, and who think families should be self-supportive in the ways of health care & education.
     
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