Birth control and Christian colleges.

Bob:

Again, you demean the facts. Not evidence? What?

There is nothing touchy-feely about these events. If they are emotional, so be it! God has emotions and uses them for His glory.

Must be pretty cold up there in Wyoming.

 

NFP - natural family planning. It is where you use your body's natural signs of ovulation to determine when the best times to abstain are. It does take more work than just popping a pill, but we both know that the pill is not the right answer. I only suggest this be used when a couple truly feels that to be pregnant would be dangerous to the woman's health (such as in your case.) This truly is a very personal decisional that no one can make for you. Here are some links for you - I have not read everything on these sites, I just wanted to give you a place to start...

http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Meadows/2879/index.html
http://familydoctor.org/x1740.xml
http://www.epigee.org/guide/natural.html

Oh, I thought of one more safe possibility - a diahpram! That could work for you, maybe....

Anyway, I hope you are able to use this as a starting point to finding the right answers for your family!

 

There is no set limit of children at BJU. That is just a plain old false statement. You give increasing evidence that you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. Why not stop talking?

 

[/qb/]Yes, indeed ... which has nothing to do with birth control.

Yes indeed, which has nothing to do with birth control.

 

Huh? The idea that use of birth control (to wit: in marriage) is unbiblical is, imo, a good example of taking scripture out of context.

Too much of anything has the potential of abuse. Responsible parents will not have any more children than they can provide for. Yet, there are way too many Christian parents who will continue to churn out children and expect God to take care of the situation, completely forgetting that scripture also says "Thou shalt not test the Lord thy God".

I would honestly question the validity of a professor who did.

 

What is never mentioned is that the pill mimics what the body normally does. If your body is not ready to accept a fertilized egg, your body will reject it, never allow it to be implanted, and it will be flushed from your system. A typical woman will have this happen to her numerous times over the coruse of her child-bearing life. The birth control pill mimics that natural bodily function.

I'm not saying this in an attempt to take a stand one way or another (I generally recommend that married persons use barrier methods instead of something that introduces chemicals into the body). But, it happend too often that a patricula side will prefer to withhold certain information if that information compromises their view. This is a good example.

 

Larry says:
There is no set limit of children at BJU. That is just a plain old false statement.

Chill out. Look there is a limit set by the University insurance for Faculty/Staff. Sure they can have more, but will have to pay for it out of pocket. And in a school where you are not paid very much, guess what. You will see to it that you do not go over the limit of 3 covered by the BJU health insurance plan.

So please stop your character assasinations. As a former staff member of BJU and aquaintance of many present faculty and staff, this policy is still in effect.

 

Bob says:
What does the Bible say about birth control. Does it say we should not use any? Does it say it is "thwarting" God's will - ala lightning rods?

Is this demeaning the formation of a human life down to that of a "lightning rod?" NOTHING is more sacred than life. Man is made in God's image. Only God can give life. The testube mentality of "modern medicine" needs to go!

Bob also says:
Be fruitful and multiply DOES NOT MEAN have as many babies as possible until your body falls apart after 15-20. Such implication is reprehensible to my body being a temple of God the Spirit.

Wow! So it would be wrong to have that many children? Hmmm. Rose Kennedy had 10 children - ALL by C-section. Tell that to Mrs. Henry, who had that 12th child (it was he who lived in those dark old dreary days of almost-medieval medicine) and grew up to be a great preacher and wrote a lot of commentaries.

Tell folks in my church it was wrong for their mother to have had 17 children. Some are serving the Lord in pulpits and on the mission field. And, their Mom is approaching 90 years of age. Wow, just think how long she could have lived if she hadn't abused her body wrecklessly giving birth to all of those children!

Bob says:
This is the jump in logic one makes denying the use of legitimate medical science/devices.

Well, it must be that God ran out of Grace for today and gave us "god-like" Doctors to help us along the way. Whew. Where would we ever be without Doctors. No wonder they are paid so well. We owe THEM our lives!

 

Paul states(most accurately and Biblically):
we ought to examine our theology of children based on the Bible as opposed to secular culture.

That hits the bullseye. Thank you Paul. God already has a BC plan in place. Who in the world do we think we are when we say that we need to use the "modern" technology/devices available to us? Who has known the mind of the Lord or who hath been His counsellor? Hmmmmmm.

 

I know a gentleman down the street that has a few large cranes for rent.

A glass of water may also be recommended for the proper removal of said beam. It helps one swallow pride. I have drunk a good bit of water on occasion for such a purpose.

 

Thank you so much for these info sites. I will definitely be looking at them tomorrow.

 

Who is the one who opens and closes the womb?

God?

 

That is so beautiful Jensen.

Isn't it amazing that God would give us such a priviledge? So very humbling that we could be blessed in such a way and have a child to raise for His glory.

"Lo, children are an heritage of the LORD: and the fruit of the womb is HIS reward. As arrows are in the hand of a mighty man; so are children of the youth. Happy is the man that hath his quiver full of them: they shall not be ashamed, but they shall speak with the enemies in the gate." Proverbs 127:3-5

Fill those quivers for His glory!