Birth Control

I agree with you.

 

I would think it would be preferable to bringing unwanted children into the world.

 

In another thread you mentioned you believed life begins at conception.

Would a birth control method that prevented implantation of the blastocyst (the fertilized egg) into the womb be considered an abortifacient?

What options would you consider acceptable?

Rob

 

Unwanted Children?????? What Christian would not want children?
I thought that is why God put us on the earth, to be fruitful and multiply.
I guess that's one rule the Catholics have that's good. Birth Control is a BIG NO NO. Now being of the medical field I can understand if you have a condition that being pregnant or giving birth would prove harmful to yourself or the baby.

 

We already fruited and multiplied, we've filled the earth... but some of the fruit is rotten. :tear:

Rob

 

So Deacon, does that mean we Christians should have more children (ie, not use birthcontrol) in order that we "make up" for the rotten fruit?

 

What do you consider rotten Black, Oriental, Red, Brown or White? If you say some of every race, who made you judge over what God has brought forth? A lot of the greatest contributors to humanity, in the arts and sciences have been orphans and illegitimate "unwanted" children.

In fact if we look deep into our very own hearts we will see that we are all rotten and deserve death but Jesus died for the ungodly. Jesus died for the rotten, shouldn't that tell you what God thinks of the rotten? He loved them enough to send his righteous Son to die for them/us. That we might have life. Life is God given by Grace. If we have the mind of Christ we should likewise give all that we have for the life of the "rotten".

 

I would recommend reading the book Vital Signs by Mark Blocher; Moody Press.

Vital signs
Vital signs: decisions that determine the quality of life and health
Mark Blocher
Publisher: Chicago : Moody Press, c1992.
ISBN: 0802491863 DDC: 241.642 LCC: R725.56

 

x = 4

 

I'm sorry. I didn't realize that the question was only asking about Christians using contraceptives. I was somehow under the impression that non-Christians use them and thought the question included them also. My mistake. :BangHead: I'll be more careful in the future to read between the lines for the hidden meaning.

Why do you think that so many children are abused by their parents (as I was), and even sometimes thrown away in the trash when they're born or killed by a parent? It's because there are children who are not wanted. In the eyes and minds of their mother, father, or both they were a mistake and not a blessing.

Many run away from home because they feel unloved and unwanted. Many turn to others to look for the love they aren't getting at home. Many turn to drugs, drink, and sex looking for the love they crave and aren't getting at home, and I'm taking about CHILDREN and TEENS. Many (like myself) turn inward and become reclusive, withdrawn and a loner--unable to relate to people and unable to make friends.

 

I'm a Christian and have 2 children. I want no more. The old saying comes into play with me, "I wouldn't take a million bucks for my kids, and I wouldn't take a million bucks to have anymore." With a world that is full, I think we have been fruitful and multiplied. Where do you stop hawg_427? How many is affordable?How many is enough to have fulfilled the "be fruitful and multiply" thing?

 

I only have two, but has God given new commandment to cease and desist? For replenishment 4 is the number. The burden for our care is going to bankrupt our Children. I'm not talking about my two but the rest of the baby boomers that will enter retirement will overload Social Security and Health Care. Why? 49 million reasons why.

Two Children to go and have a family of their own will have an aging father and mother plus a MIL and FIL to care for. Four people to be a burden plus their own children. If any family is to be faithful to God's call for replenishment then 4 children and more is the number.

 

My wife and I have had three children. The first was miscarried at three months, and the last, our son, was born three months premature and lived three days. My wife almost died due to complications with Daniel, so we took steps to prevent any further pregnancies. Does that make us wrong? Not that I see.

Children are a blessing, but nowhere in God's word does it say you have to pop out as many as you can. Birth control was even used back in bible times. We know it as the rhythm method, counting the days of a woman's cycle. It's just that we have more and differenet means available nowadays.

If an egg is not fertilized, there was no life lost. That same egg will still be handled just like it would have done without contraceptive. There is no difference.

 

So...we should have 4 kids...even if we can't afford 4 kids?

Your logic is flawed. We shouldn't base the number of kids we have on the number needed to sustain Social Security.

I have a better idea: let's not have social (in)security....and everyone can have as many kids as God lays on their heart to have. :thumbs:

(do not construe the above as an endorsement of abortificant birth control, or abortions themselves. I approve of neither). :saint: