Born of God

You just failed to read it. Lazarus was in the time of Moses.

 

Turn a blind eye if you want, my Bible says they are already in the Kingdom of God.

 

So, my friend, according to what you have just laid out, hell will be filled with children, for a lot of them die.

That word "out of context" is a good crutch for you isn't it?

Jesus said "such IS the kingdom." You saying the Lord is telling false?
This is the Lord's words, I am just repeating them. If you don't want to believe the Lord, that is you, not me.

Deu 1:39Moreover your little ones, which ye said should be a prey, and your children, which in that day had no knowledge between good and evil, they shall go in thither, and unto them will I give it, and they shall possess it.

 

That is for sinners. Little children are without sin. Where there is no Law, sin is not imputed. Even if they know what sin is, which I don't think so. All I hear them say is "goo goo" and "da da". Doubt if that is sin.

You apparently believe if they die, they go to hell?

Be kinda hard if a baby was looking up at you and saying "da da" and toss it into hell, don't you think?

 

There is enough place and space for all children who ever died in infancy. That's not the problem. The Reformed opinion is if the parents are believers, the children are saved.

However, no child will 'go to heaven' (as you people express their salvation) because they were sinless. If they are saved, it MUST be because of the merit of Jesus Christ - by the fact He died and rose from the dead, FOR THEM. How it is explained in terms of the 'rebirth', I cannot say. It also doesn't worry me; God is both Judge and Saviour.

The Gospel message concerns responsible, thinking human beings. Therefore it is quite clear, no one is saved but he that is born again.

 

I agree, but you must be lost first. I know scripture says "all" have sinned, but I believe its talking about those who know what sin is.
It is through the blood of Christ that they will be resurrected, but by His Grace.

1Ti 2:6Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time.

Rom 1:21Because that, when they knew God, they glorified [him] not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.

 

GE:
So, do you imply after the resurrection children will grow up and then become sinners in order to be saved then? I think some SDAs are thinking that way (I do not say for fact here.) through misinterpretation of some text in Isaiah that says a child will get to the age of 100 years or something. To me it's a most ridiculous thought.

 

No, I believe as Jesus said:
Jhn 5:28
Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice,
Jhn 5:29
And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.




Rom 9:11(For [the children] being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth

There was no "condemnation" yet, of the children.

I believe in a quick work the Lord will do. I do not believe in all the mumbo jumbo I hear on BB, of at least 3 more resurrections. I believe in One yet to come.

 

"Such IS the kingdom of God" is not my words, but the words of Jesus. Take it or leave it. :thumbs:

 

GE:
Let's be fair, mark1, it's not "BB". We are on the forum for 'other denominations', remember! So you can put your money on it you'll find all the weirdo's on it. It makes it very difficult in fact for any 'normal' Christian to post here. But make of it a positive challenge, and make your own contribution as positive as possible.

So also please try and be simple and straight-forward, because I find a lot (if not about every thing) you post here, impossible to grasp and out of line with PLAIN Scripture. Perhaps you should look at yourself and not at those weirdo's like myself.

 

That is a wild statement GE, when very few on here agree with you. I try to look at myself, but maybe I could do a better job of it. I suggest you quit taking the avenue that you are the one who is "correct" and that maybe you need to look in the mirrow yourself. I guess I will have to agree on the weirdo part, at least we agree on something. So, from here on out, you can always refer back to us agreeing on the weirdo part..........

You need to be more specific about what you disagree with. It seems you don't agree with anyone, but if you be more specific, I will provide scripture for my beliefs.

Also, if I remember correctly, you only believe in "one" resurrection to come. You can correct me if I am wrong.

I also, do not find "rapture" in the bible, it came from John Darby. I think we agree on that. I do believe the hour is coming when "all" in the grave shall come forth.

I also believe what tribulations the children of God will see is before the second coming of Christ, I think we agree on that.

Maybe I misread you though.

 

Well, humble and innocent as a little child. How about that Steaver, If you don't want to believe the Lord that is up to you.

Such? had your evil covered over, so you become as a little child.

You are just sticking your head in the sand. IMO :thumbs: