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Discussion in 'Other Christian Denominations' started by jeremiah1five, Oct 19, 2018.

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  1. HankD

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    Y but you can't have it both ways. You may even say "we willingly choose to keep on rejecting Him" because it is the bent or direction of our will".

    I hate liver, I will not eat liver.
     
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    You were rejecting Him before getting saved!
     
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    We have enough free will remaining to always keep on rejecting Jesus, as our sin natures will not give us freedom by itself to say Yes!
     
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    But then if we have enough "free will" to reject Him we have enough "free will" to accept Him or its not "free" will but enbondaged will.
     
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  5. jeremiah1five

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    John 14:17 (KJV)
    17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.

    John 3:18 (KJV)
    18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

    THE WORLD CANNOT RECEIVE THE SPIRIT OF TRUTH whose Ministry on the planet is to APPLY the salvation bought by the Son. The blasphemy of the Holy Spirit is not a sin of the tongue, but of the WHOLE LIFE. These are a people whom the Lord calls THE WORLD, there is NO ATONEMENT provided for them, there is NO PRAYER offered for them by the High Priest Jesus Christ - NONE. THEY ARE CONDEMNED ALREADY.

    Throughout John 17, our High Priest, Jesus Christ, is about to sacrifice Himself for the Elect of God.
    The high priest has two functions mainly under THE LAW: Pray for the people of God, and offer sacrifices for the people of God. NOTICE that our HIGH PRIEST DOES NOT EVEN PRAY FOR THE WORLD, thus the world is prayer-less, NOR does our High PRIEST offer Himself for the world. But He offers and prays FOR "THEM."

    The "them" are the Elect of God, and from the cross Jesus Christ says, "Father, FORGIVE THEM" (the Elect, those whose names are written BY GOD in the book of life of the LAMB slain from [BEFORE] the foundation (creation) of the world.)

    What part of this do you not understand, AOG? Read John 17. Jesus makes distinction between His people and the world - why can't YOU?

    If the Scripture doesn't help you understand there is NO FREE WILL then neither can I help you.

    Keeping it real.
     
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    The will is limited to be able to do only what the sin nature allows it to do!
     
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    There is free will still, but NOT as the non Calvinist usually see it as being!
     
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    so arminian are you?
     
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    I can't help you.
    You don't listen to the Lord and He IS the final Authority.
    Kinda puts a dent in your armor.
    Actually, you're not wearing a Belt of Truth which holds all the armor in place.
    Good Lord! You're defenseless!.
     
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    I'm wondering if bro Y is an native English speaker.
     
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    Who coerced you to say this?
     
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    No one 'coerced' me.
    You actually believe people have a free will to "accept Jesus into their heart?"
    Really now. Answer me. Do you believe that?
     
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    What you are doing is showing your ineptness in understanding scripture, making up doctrines which scripture no where supports, misusing scripture to create your presuppositional agenda, and using that to accuse others.
     
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    As the OP is now on a mandatory vacation from the Board, this thread is closed.
     
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