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The Republicans have done a lot with abortion

 

The Republicans have done something about for years now.

 

The Republicans have rattled sabers and used abortion to curry political favor. But as SN noted, it's been the same old same old since 1973.

The people in leadership in the old days used to be the people in leadership in the Church and we could hold them accountable for their values or lack thereof.

Now we are too quick to compromise because the choices suck and someone is the best option of available options.

Enough of these folks who feel they have to play politics and compromise. We are the Bride of a HOLY God . Our choices should be trending toward HOLINESS and absolute truth that does not compromise rather than towards they meet 6 out of 10 of my Christian requirements and that's more than the other guy..

My pastor said it this past weekend: What we do in moderation today, the next generation will do in excess.

Wouldn't it be something if we set them up for an excess of HOLINESS?

 

Were we to insist on 10 out of 10 this day and age, we would eliminate ourselves from the political process, and thus eliminate ourselves from having a voice, so that:

" ... when they came for me, there was no one left to speak out." (Martin Niemöller)​

 

There's not much difference between no voice and a voice that compromises on every other thing.

But I say again, politics in the manner that the Church has attempted to use it, has become somewhat the antithesis of what a Christian is supposed to be.

If your voice appears to be absent love because you're more caught up on an issue rather than loving people and pointing them towards Christ with that platform, perhaps it's best to not be heard from that platform?

 

Even GW Bush, who started two meaningless wars, went to Congress first. Get your facts straight.

 

To paraphrase Inigo Montoya in The Princess Bride: "You keep using that phrase. I do not think it means what you think it means."

A declaration of war automatically brings into effect a number of statutes that confer special powers on the President and the Executive Branch, especially concerning measures that have domestic effect. A declaration, for instance, activates statutes that empower the President to interdict all trade with the enemy, order manufacturing plants to produce armaments and seize them if they refuse, control transportation systems in order to give the military priority use, and command communications systems to give priority to the military. A declaration triggers the Alien Enemy Act, which gives the President substantial discretionary authority over nationals of an enemy state who are in the United States.

It activates special authorities to use electronic surveillance for purposes of gathering foreign intelligence information without a court order under the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act. It automatically extends enlistments in the armed forces until the end of the war, can make the Coast Guard part of the Navy, gives the President substantial discretion over the appointment and reappointment of commanders, and allows the military priority use of the natural resources on the public lands and the continental shelf.

Now I ask you, do you want that to happen every time we take military action of some sort? The reality is, despite literally hundreds of uses of military force in the course of U.S. history, Congress has only declared war on five occasions:

• In 1812 against Great Britain (War of 1812)
• In 1846 against Mexico (Mexican-American War)
• In 1898 against Spain (Spanish-American War)
• In 1917 against Germany and Austria-Hungary (World War I)
• In 1941 against Japan, Germany, Italy; in 1942 against Bulgaria, Hungary and Rumania (World War II)

By contrast, this link will provide you with a Google books copy of a report for the Library of Congress by national defense specialist Richard Grimmett, detailing literally hundreds of undeclared-war military actions by the U.S. from John Adams to George W. Bush.

http://books.google.com/books?id=Ev...ates Armed Forces Abroad, 1798 - 2004&f=false

The Constitution does not forbid military action without a declaration of war. A declaration of war provides special powers to the president that very few military actions require.

 

"But what does it profit the men who are killed? What does it profit their mothers and sisters, their wives and their sweethearts? What does it profit their children?

What does it profit anyone except the very few to whom war means huge profits?

Yes, and what does it profit the nation?

Take our own case. Until 1898 we didn't own a bit of territory outside the mainland of North America. At that time our national debt was a little more than $1,000,000,000. Then we became "internationally minded." We forgot, or shunted aside, the advice of the Father of our country. We forgot George Washington's warning about "entangling alliances." We went to war. We acquired outside territory. At the end of the World War period, as a direct result of our fiddling in international affairs, our national debt had jumped to over $25,000,000,000. Our total favorable trade balance during the twenty-five-year period was about $24,000,000,000. Therefore, on a purely bookkeeping basis, we ran a little behind year for year, and that foreign trade might well have been ours without the wars.

It would have been far cheaper (not to say safer) for the average American who pays the bills to stay out of foreign entanglements. For a very few this racket, like bootlegging and other underworld rackets, brings fancy profits, but the cost of operations is always transferred to the people -- who do not profit."

Major General Smedley Butler 1935

And now a word from the president. 1961

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8y06NSBBRtY

"But the soldier pays the biggest part of the bill.

If you don't believe this, visit the American cemeteries on the battlefields abroad. Or visit any of the veteran's hospitals in the United States. On a tour of the country, in the midst of which I am at the time of this writing, I have visited eighteen government hospitals for veterans. In them are a total of about 50,000 destroyed men -- men who were the pick of the nation eighteen years ago. The very able chief surgeon at the government hospital; at Milwaukee, where there are 3,800 of the living dead, told me that mortality among veterans is three times as great as among those who stayed at home.

Boys with a normal viewpoint were taken out of the fields and offices and factories and classrooms and put into the ranks. There they were remolded; they were made over; they were made to "about face"; to regard murder as the order of the day. They were put shoulder to shoulder and, through mass psychology, they were entirely changed. We used them for a couple of years and trained them to think nothing at all of killing or of being killed.

Then, suddenly, we discharged them and told them to make another "about face" ! This time they had to do their own readjustment, sans [without] mass psychology, sans officers' aid and advice and sans nation-wide propaganda." SDB

Now a word from a foreign policy expert. “Military men are just dumb, stupid animals to be used as pawns in foreign policy.” Henry Kissinger

A few words from another foreign policy expert. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kmUS--QCYY

 

Really? I think they've done almost nothing. Why didn't they lead an effort to change the constitution by getting the required votes in the state assemblies? The reason is if they ever really did anything about abortion they would lose one of their major ways to hold onto the fundamentalist Christian vote. They've played pure politics with this important issue.