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Bus driver fired for obscene gesture to Bush

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by Terry_Herrington, Nov 6, 2006.

  1. SBCPreacher

    SBCPreacher Active Member

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    Since she made that "obscene gesture" in front of children she should be fired. It doesn't matter who she made it to.
     
  2. Pete

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    Cool, now maybe someone will get rid of Dubya for his...."sign language".
     
  3. carpro

    carpro Well-Known Member

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    Amen, Preacher.
     
  4. saturneptune

    saturneptune New Member

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    I agree because of in front of the children, not to Lyndon Baines Bush.
     
  5. Scarlett O.

    Scarlett O. Well-Known Member

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    She has a right to hate him. She has a right to express her middle finger in any manner she chooses. She has a right to vocalize the words in his direction that the finger in question stands for.

    But when she became a bus driver of underage children, her job responsibilities automatically override her freedom of expression.

    This is America. She is still free to express her viewpoint in terms of vile words and finger signs that express vile words. Just because you are an American does not mean that you are forced to espouse Judeo-Christian moral codes.

    She just isn't at liberty to do so in front of underage children. Part of any adult's job description in working with underage students is to uphold a code of ethics determined by your local school board.

    She deserved to have been fired.
     
  6. SBCPreacher

    SBCPreacher Active Member

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    So as long as it's given to Pres. Bush, that makes it OK? It's OK for someone to flip someone off as long as it's Pres. Bush? And this is the right thing, the "christian" thing to do in your book?? You're in the wrong book!
     
  7. rbell

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    maybe he was just telling the President, "You're number one in my book!"


    OK, sorry for the flippant remark.


    :tongue3:
     
  8. saturneptune

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    Why dont you stick to the op (for once). It said should she be fired, not did I think it was ok. I am not her boss. No, it is a terrible witness. What does that have to do with keeping a job? Read the subject of the thread.
     
  9. Terry_Herrington

    Terry_Herrington New Member

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    I think this bus driver should not have hoisted her salute to the President because of her position and because of her proximity to the children. She was wrong.

    As far as she losing her job or not would depend on the past practices of the district administration. If, in the past, they had dismissed others in a similar situation, she should be fired. If others had received less severe punishment, she should receive the same thing.
     
  10. bobbyd

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    That type if thing is just one of the many reasons we chose not to allow our kids to ride the bus to school this year...and then eventually pull them out of the public school.

    It's sad though, you would expect the other kids to be the bad influence and not the "adult" driving the bus.
     
  11. underscoretim

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    the original post asked if they should be fired.
    i don't know.
    maybe it's a freedom of speech issue
     
  12. Scarlett O.

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    Of course it's a freedom of speech issue.

    But as my students that I used to teach in my 5th grade Constitution class will tell you, freedoms aren't free and "freedom" doesn't mean chaotic license to practice anarchy.

    Yes, in this country we are grateful for freedom of speech. But in order to enjoy that freedom and to keep it precious, there are responsibilities that come hand-in-hand with the rights.

    Yes, she had the right to her opinion and to express as she so desired. She also had the moral responsibility to restrain her vulgar expression in the presence of children.

    Freedom of speech and the rest of the freedoms in the Bill of Rights is not rocket science, people.

     
  13. underscoretim

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    she did have every right to express herself. but i imagine she will be punished for her actions by her bosses
     
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    I find myself in agreement. If the firing was the result of established norms -- well done. But if a similar signal to any passerby would not result in a firing, this shouldn't either.
     
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    . . . she should be handcuffed to her chief supporter . . .

     
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    So anyone who gets mad at a co-worker and uses "colorful" language or gestures should be fired even i9f it is in front of a child? I think she be given a warning that that kind of behavior won't be tolerated. Firing for a first offense is too extreme.
     
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    When George Bush did the gesture it was funny, how many kids have tuned into that infamous video of Bush. This schoolbus driver followed the example of Bush and yet this guy is still in office and a busdriver is out of a job. I agree that the busdriver should have been reprimanded but not fired.
     
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