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Bush Appointees are Bailing Out!!!

Discussion in 'Free-For-All Archives' started by LadyEagle, Nov 15, 2004.

  1. LadyEagle

    LadyEagle <b>Moderator</b> <img src =/israel.gif>

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    Colin Powell just announced at his staff meeting he is stepping down.

    Earlier today, head of Energy, Abrams, announced he is leaving.

    John Ashcroft is leaving.

    Don Evans is leaving.

    Watch for Condy Rice to go.

    These key players must know something we don't. Like something bad coming down the pike.

    I think it is highly unusual to have so many leave at the beginning of a second term, and I don't think the bailouts are over yet.

    These resignations are a clue, IMO.
     
  2. dianetavegia

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    Disagree Lady Eagle. It's very common for appointees to serve only one term. Life in Washington means no life anywhere else.
     
  3. dianetavegia

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    Senior White House officials tell U.S. News that Bush plans to replace at least half his cabinet over the next few months. His aim is to remove officials who have become lightning rods for controversy or who seem to have lost their desire to serve in Washington. "The president believes it's always good to have some new faces in a new term," says a senior Bush adviser.

    The process has already begun. Commerce Secretary Don Evans resigned last week, and the departure of Education Secretary Rod Paige is expected to be announced this week. Most of the attention, though, focused on the resignation of Attorney General John Ashcroft. Bush quickly nominated Alberto Gonzales, his chief White House lawyer, to succeed Ashcroft. Gonzales is expected to continue tough prosecution of the war on terrorism but with a less confrontational manner. Gonzales's appointment marks the first time a Latino will have served as attorney general. The diminutive former Texas Supreme Court justice will face tough questions in the Senate Judiciary Committee but is expected to win confirmation.

    Yet despite the personnel shifts, the president's policies aren't expected to change. U.S. News has learned, for example, that Bush is planning for a congressional vote next year on reforming the Social Security system. Bush sees the reform proposals--which include giving young people the option of investing part of their Social Security funds in the private sector--as his main chance to build a lasting legacy. Bush aims to create an "ownership society" in which Americans rely less on the government and their employers and more on themselves by creating their own wealth.

    www.usnews.com

    BTW.... Colin Powell needs to push away from the table and lose the weight he's gained while in Washington. He looks very unhealthy!
     
  4. JGrubbs

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    I don't think Rice will go, I expect her to get a promotion during the shuffle. I think Rumsfeld will be gone after the Iraq elections, and don't expect Cheney, who was in the hospital this weekend, to make it two years, can you say VP Guiliani?
     
  5. dianetavegia

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    JGrubbs, Cheney went in for tests when he was short of breath but was visiting the hospital rooms in street clothes while waiting for his tests to come back. He has a bad chest cold.
     
  6. LadyEagle

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    I used to think Colin Powell was a dove. Changed my mind after seeing the documentary on Rumsfeld's War.

    Knowing there is discontent in an administration, the administration will ALWAYS try to put a favorable spin on resignations - no matter who it is. Look at all the stepdowns/replacements, etc., during the Clinton administration. When one gets a gullet full of insider info, one steps down.

    I smell a book deal (Powell).

    Pundits are mentioning Condy Rice for possible Sec. of State. Well, she didn't do too hot as National Security advisor (09/11).

    And, Diane, you're right, President Bush made the anouncement for John Ashcroft's replacement -a pro-abortion advocate. John Ashcroft was too good for this administration.

    I expect to see some really liberal replacements, of the neo-con variety.
     
  7. dianetavegia

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    Lady Eagle, Instead of dancing in circles yelling 'I knew it was coming', we should all be on our knees asking our Lord to guide the chosing of replacements.

    Psalms 37:1 Do not fret because of evildoers, Nor be envious of the workers of iniquity. 2 For they shall soon be cut down like the grass, And wither as the green herb. 3 Trust in the Lord, and do good; Dwell in the land, and feed on His faithfulness. 4 Delight yourself also in the Lord, And He shall give you the desires of your heart. 5 Commit your way to the Lord, Trust also in Him, And He shall bring it to pass. 6 He shall bring forth your righteousness as the light, And your justice as the noonday.
     
  8. NaasPreacher (C4K)

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    Sadly, President Bush has a less than conservative record on appointments.

    Do you think we will see our first openly homosexual cabinet member in the reshuffle?
     
  9. LadyEagle

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    Yep.

    We can pray all we want to about the Lord guiding replacements. But President Bush has a free will (as do all of us) to do what he chooses to do. Like equating Muslims, Jews, and Christians worshipping the same god.

    My hope is NOT in President Bush. My hope is not in the Republicrat party. My hope is in the LORD. I also remember the story of the quail.
     
  10. Pennsylvania Jim

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    Why do you assumd that anyone who holds a positioin contrary to your favorite folks in Washington prays less than you do?
     
  11. Pennsylvania Jim

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    His way is usually to promote these kinds of things less openly.
     
  12. dianetavegia

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    Pa. Jim, sadly I have to admit that I forget to pray for our leaders and their decisions because of too many 'local' things and prayer chain requests. Do note that I said WE need to pray!
     
  13. LadyEagle

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    This was certainly true in the past. However, there is no election to worry about now. All the stops (meaning potential evangelical Christian vote), may be pulled out now.

    As I said right after the election and will continue to say - we will now see the true character of President Bush emerge. I hope I have been wrong about him and the policies he wishes to promote, (I would love to be wrong!!)but it doesn't look promising in the first week or so.... :(
     
  14. JGrubbs

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    It's not part of the official cabinet, but according to the Washington Times, Ken Mehlman, campaign manager for Bush-Cheney '04, will be named head of the Republican National Committee.

    It is widely rumored that Ken Mehlman is a homosexual, although Mr. Mehlman has refused to discuss his sexual orientation in public. Some moderates and liberals are already applauding the President for helping Mehlman become the leader of the GOP.
     
  15. LadyEagle

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    Wow, some pundit just suggested Colin Powell as Supreme Court nominee at some future point. I believe is is pro-abortion. :(

    There is nothing in the law that says Supreme Court Justices have to be lawyers or judges, he said.
     
  16. LadyEagle

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    Agriculture secretary and Education secretary just bailed, too.
     
  17. church mouse guy

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    This Constitution Party hyperbole is a waste of time. Personally, I am glad that Powell is leaving.

    Really, Constitution Party, this is a war and public service is not lucrative. Many have to leave to get jobs to support their families. Serving during a war is exhausting work.
     
  18. JGrubbs

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    CMG, this thread is not about the Constitution Party, but about the various people leaving the Bush administration, and who will be replacing them.

    Secretary of State Collin Powell, Attorney General John Ashcroft, Energy Secretary Spencer Abraham, Education Secretary Rod Paige, Agriculture Secretary Ann Veneman and Commerce Secretary Don Evans already have announced their resignations.

    Senior administration officials said national security adviser Condoleezza Rice was most likely to succeed Powell.
     
  19. Pennsylvania Jim

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    Nobody's perfect.
     
  20. Pastor Larry

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    I think if you compare departures in the first four years of a presidency, you will find that Bush has had far fewer than his predecessors. For instances, Clinton went through 6 or so cabinet members in his first couple of years, if I remember correctly.

    I think it would be wrong to characterize this as "bailing out." That seems very perjorative, and completely out of place.
     
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