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BUSH Wins - Christians everywhere rejoice

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  1. tragic_pizza

    tragic_pizza New Member

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    You'll need to educate this ignorant Christian, i am afraid. Why would they give a rat's left hind leg whether Skerry or Bush is President?
     
    #41 tragic_pizza, Nov 4, 2004
  2. NaasPreacher (C4K)

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    Because outside of America Christians have very little involvement in politics.

    Besides, we could all have rejoiced in knowing that God's will was done if Kerry had been elected.
     
    #42 NaasPreacher (C4K), Nov 4, 2004
  3. tragic_pizza

    tragic_pizza New Member

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    Is that so?

    I don't guess you've been reading since Election Day, have you?

    But because Kerry wasn't we can't all rejoice, because God's will has been ignored by ignorant, uninvolved Christians. Got it.
     
    #43 tragic_pizza, Nov 4, 2004
  4. NaasPreacher (C4K)

    NaasPreacher (C4K) Well-Known Member

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    The point is that most Christians in the world outside of the US don't really care who the US president is - my first post should have said that they are not rejoicing any more than they would if Kerry had won. Sorry for the confusion. I see in retrospect that I was not clear.

    <edited to correct typos only>

    [ November 05, 2004, 01:22 AM: Message edited by: C4K ]
     
    #44 NaasPreacher (C4K), Nov 4, 2004
  5. tragic_pizza

    tragic_pizza New Member

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    ok. Sorry.
     
    #45 tragic_pizza, Nov 4, 2004
  6. here now

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    Something to think about:

    Could President Bush have meant: Everyone, Christians and Muslims alike have the same God.

    Because we do all have the same God, EVEN THOSE WHO DON'T KNOW IT. There is but ONE God. The Creator of ALL things, seen and unseen. And the Creator of everybody.
     
    #46 here now, Nov 4, 2004
  7. LadyEagle

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    I believe he said "worship" the same God. There is a difference.
     
    #47 LadyEagle, Nov 4, 2004
  8. poncho

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    The difference in what we hear may depend on how much our ears itch.
     
    #48 poncho, Nov 5, 2004
  9. NaasPreacher (C4K)

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    He also said in the Gibson interview that Christians and Muslims are all going to heaven, but that we "are taking different roads to get there"
     
    #49 NaasPreacher (C4K), Nov 5, 2004
  10. Pennsylvania Jim

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    Yeah. It could just be that whenever he says something not to our liking he meant something else, but whenever he says something that we like he meant exactly what he said. But I doubt it.
     
    #50 Pennsylvania Jim, Nov 5, 2004
  11. here now

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    Yeah. It could just be that whenever he says something not to our liking he meant something else, but whenever he says something that we like he meant exactly what he said. But I doubt it. </font>[/QUOTE]Yea Yea,That's right always gotta cover for my guy. No, that's not me. Actually I have have disagreed with some things President Bush has said, and I verbalized it.
    I didn't actually hear him make some of the comments about Christians and Muslims. So,I was wondering if he could have meant what I expressed.
     
    #51 here now, Nov 6, 2004
  12. NaasPreacher (C4K)

    NaasPreacher (C4K) Well-Known Member

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    I listened to the interview - it was very clear cut.
     
    #52 NaasPreacher (C4K), Nov 6, 2004
  13. Gup20

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    We left Europe to come here. Now we're supposed to try to emulate them? I don't think so. That would be contrary to our reasons for leaving. In case you have forgotten, that was freedom of religion, and liberty.

    Perhaps it's the company that you (or your ideology) keep that is the problem. When your agenda seems to line up perfectly with atheists and satan worshipers, it's time to re-examine the ideology you have associated yourself with. When John Kerry comes out and campaigns on the firmly established ideals of Socialism, that should be a clue to you that your candidate is heading in the wrong direction. Have you ever noticed that sinners and evil doers everywhere always seem to pick the same candidate? It's the guy who makes it easier for them to sin. Take a look at homosexuality, for example. Nearly every homosexual identifies themselves as a liberal or democrat. The vast majority of persons who support abortion identify themselves as a liberal or democrat. Is it such a shock or coincidence? I think not.

    I would agree with you fully on that point.

    Europe is moving away from God at record speed. If the Christians THERE were doing their job, America would not need to send SO MANY missionaries there. Yet the vast majority of the gospel being preached throughout the whole earth (including Europe) is by Americans, or sponsored by Americans. America is the source of the vast majority of the gospel being preached - even in Europe. Clearly, there has been found a severe lacking in the European Christian community of those willing to GO into the world and PREACH the gospel.

    In fact, my church has a very extensive missionary outreach program. We have lots of people in Europe right now. We also have people in the Middle East, and in Afghanistan. Our missionaries in all these places have all told us that they were praying for Bush to be elected because it makes their job 1000 times easier. For example, with Clinton in office, Christains were an underground church who were killed if captured in Afghanistan. Now, with Bush as the president, the Afghan government is afraid to act against Christians in their country, and the church there can be much more open and free than ever before. So indeed... Christians all over the world are rejoicing at Bush's re-election.
     
    #53 Gup20, Nov 6, 2004
  14. LadyEagle

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    Europe is becoming Islamatized at record speed.

    Agreed. We never hear about or from them, though.
     
    #54 LadyEagle, Nov 6, 2004
  15. here now

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    In response to LE-
    That is because the media does not want to give voice to Christians. If they did that then their very livelyhood may be threatened. Look at the trash that's on tv now. Where is the censorship? They do not want to open the door to Christians.
     
    #55 here now, Nov 6, 2004
  16. proddavid

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    Not every gay is a liberal so and so. The Vice President's daughter is what?
     
    #56 proddavid, Nov 7, 2004
  17. proddavid

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    I doubt that every Christian rejoiced over this election all over the world. In fact. Europe said very little about it, past the normal lets talk things out again. The best censorship is turning the dial.

    France has always been a very secular culture yet as it is stated here there are large numbers of Moselms there.
     
    #57 proddavid, Nov 7, 2004
  18. Pete

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    [​IMG] I think the company I keep could be the problem...The BB Bushians :D

    [​IMG] oh it IS getting better :D OK, impress me, what is my agenda? [​IMG]

    If you want to talk about associations, doesn't your support of Bush maybe make you a muslim? [​IMG]

    And who says Kerry would have been my candidate if I were over that way? :rolleyes: [​IMG] ARGH...I just ran out of Graemlins...
     
    #58 Pete, Nov 7, 2004
  19. corinne

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    Nah... Christians everywhere are rejoicing... Satan Worshipers and Atheists who hate america everywhere greive. </font>[/QUOTE]I doubt that European Christians are rejoicing today. </font>[/QUOTE]A Christian is a Christian, whether he or she lives in Europe or in the US or somewhere else has nothing to do with the fact that that person is or is not a Christian. Some Christians rejoice about Bush's re-election and some do not, simply because Christians can have similar moral values, they do not necessarily have to have identital political views.

    I am a Christian, and I do not rejoice at the idea of Bush being at the head of the most powerful country in the world.

    Corinne
     
    #59 corinne, Nov 7, 2004
  20. corinne

    corinne New Member

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    The only road is the one that passes through Christ, so there is no way a Muslim can go over the obstacle of Christ and reach the same place as a Christian.

    Corinne
     
    #60 corinne, Nov 7, 2004
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