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CAFTA Debate & Vote Tonight

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by KenH, Jul 27, 2005.

  1. KenH

    KenH Well-Known Member

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    Apparently the House will debate CAFTA tonight and vote on it tonight. You can watch it live on C-SPAN right now. They are currently debating the rule that will govern the two hours of debate, but it's really debate on CAFTA itself.

    Let's hope that the Establishment doesn't pull any stunts like it did to get the Medicare Prescription Drug bill passed a couple of years ago.

    DOWN WITH CAFTA!
    DOWN WITH CAFTA!!
    POWER TO THE PEOPLE!!!!
     
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    I expect my GOP Congressman to ignore the numerous calls he has recieved from his voters here in Central Florida and join the rest of the Bushbots in passing CAFTA. :(
     
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    Don't give up hope, Jonathan. We can lick this thing and give the Establishment a bloody nose!


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    Same here. My Rep is John Beohner. He'd never leave the camp on this one.
     
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    The main switchboard number for the U.S. House is 202-224-3121. I am going to call my Congressman's office for the 15th time on this issue. [​IMG]
     
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    Looks like Arkansas is going to cave, in the
    land of Wal-Mart and Tyson.


    Where have you gone William Jennings Bryan?

    The special interest lobbyist have put all the
    congressman in their on personal sound booth
    and our voices are filtered out.

    and bush not running for anything shows us what
    its like to belly up to the trough.

    41% bush but I know you don't care it is "Arbusto"
    all over again knowing you will get bailed out
    by the taxpayers.
     
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    I just got off the phone with my Congressmans office, they said that he did vote against NAFTA, but is now leaning to yes on CAFTA, they told me that he met with the President today, and the President has encouraged him to support "fair trade" by supporting CAFTA. :(
     
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    Hidden in the 2,400 pages of CAFTA

    At 2,400 pages, the Central America Free Trade Agreement isn't really about trade. Frankly, you don't need 2,400 pages to eliminate tariffs and regulations on exports and imports. But, you might need 2,400 pages to smuggle through a new set of transnational corporate rights disguised by complicated legalese. I wonder, how many members of Congress will even bother to read this trade tome before voting?

    I recall in 1994 that only one senator, Republican Hank Brown of Colorado, accepted Ralph Nader's challenge to win $10,000 for charity by taking a simple 10-question quiz on the content of the World Trade Organization agreement. After studying the agreement, Brown announced to the press: "I am a Republican, pro-business and a proponent of the free market economy and I am here to speak out against the WTO. For when you read this text – and I invite my colleague senators to do this – you will understand that the WTO is fundamentally undemocratic."

    Any member of Congress who thinks CAFTA is merely about free trade should look carefully at its provisions on government contracts and corporate lawsuits, among others.

    Source: The San Diego Union-Tribue
     
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    How did Mel Martinez vote?
    How about Nelson?

    Regards from a former Floridian,
    BiR
     
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    Rep. Charlie Norwood (R) from Georgia is speaking against CAFTA on CSPAN right now, I wish his fellow members of the GOP would listen to him instead of letting George W. Bush use his strongarm tactics to bribe them into supporting this dangerous piece of legislation.
     
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    Disappointed in Nelson, not surprised at all by Martinez. I wouldn't cast a vote for Martinez for ANY office. If he ran unopposed, I simply would not vote.

    Thanks for the link.

    Regards,
    BiR
     
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    Only Boozman(R) is leaning "yes".

    Ross(D)(my Congressman) and Berry(D) are both in the "no" column.

    Snyder(D) is "undecided".
     
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    The voting has started at 10:04 CDT.
     
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    It's laughable to see all those Bushbots on the FreeRepublic(an) Web site talking about CAFTA, they are saying that anyone who votes against it supports Castro, Chavez, etc. :rolleyes:

    Source: FreeRepublic
     
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    With the 15 minutes expired here are the results so far:

    Yeas - 214
    No - 210

    Republican votes left - 9
    Democrate votes left - 1
     
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    Yeah, 35 minutes into a 15 minute vote.

    Republicans 199 yeas, 23 nays

    Democrats 15 yeas, 186 nays

    Independent 1 nay
     
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    8 GOP left
    1 Dem left
     
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    The imbalance of power...Republicans hold the
    senate,house,executive, and supreme court.

    Tom Delay would have been gone a long time ago
    if the house had more independents and democrats
    and maverick republicans...but yet he stands there
    guaranteeing a victory ..well we know what he did
    last time to the point of threats.

    It is never good for our Republic when all the
    balance is one sided...if just the house was
    filled with the peoples politicians instead of
    the lobbyists politicians the common man might
    have a fighting chance and keep the fox on the
    outside of the hen house.

    They need to keep a mic and camera on Tom Delay
    at all times tonight...I hear they are offering
    deals and money through the highway bill.
     
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