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Called To Preach The Word Of God

Discussion in 'Baptist Colleges & Seminaries' started by tyndale1946, Sep 16, 2002.

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  1. tyndale1946

    tyndale1946 Well-Known Member
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    First of all for those who don't know me my name is Brother Glen of the Primitive Baptist brethren. I have been in the Primitive Baptist Church for 35 years and am a song leader and church clerk. I am called upon to speak at times in the pulpit.

    One of the qualification of our God called ministers is they do not have to go to a seminary or bible college. If they have gone in the past and come over to our church they would not be disqualified. Our ministers are called out from the body of believers in our churches... Men Only!

    Now to my question... If you never went to a bible college or seminary would you have still felt qualified to preach the gospel of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ?... Did not God call you to the ministry?... Since he did he gave you the tools to preach his Gospel and can train you himself... II Timothy 2: 15 Study to show thyself approved unto God a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.

    Were not the apostles that Jesus chose ignorant and unlearned men?... Jesus took them under his wing and taught them what they should preach and gave them the authority and the unction of the Holy Spirit to do so. He is God and he did it in the past and is able to do the same thing today.

    I am not saying that all the college and seminary was for nought. We find the Apostle Paul was a man of much learning and as he relates in the following scripture... Acts 22: 3 I am verily a man which am a Jew, born in Tarsus, a city in Cilicia, yet brought up in this city at the feet of Gamaliel, and taught according to the perfect manner of the law of the fathers, and was zealous toward God, as ye all are this day.

    The Apostle Paul was exceptional compared to those other Apostles as they were ignorant and unlearned he was a man of exceptional learning. Listen to the comments of Peter after the crucifiction... I go fishing. He went back to the same occupation he had before the Lord told him to follow him and he would make him a fisher of men.

    After all that being said could you preachers have preached the word of God without having to have gone to a Bible College or Seminary?... If you are called of God there is a fire in your bones and you cannot do nothing else... "YOU MUST PREACH!"... Brother Glen [​IMG]
     
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  2. Rev. Joshua

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    I felt the call to preach and pastor long before going to seminary. It was a persistant urging that I could not answer because I was not qualified to. It was not until I went to seminary that I felt like I was answering that call because I was taking the steps toward becoming equipped to follow God's purpose for me.

    Joshua
     
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    Dear Tnydale1946:

    I agree with your position on this. My husband was called to pastor, but people kept telling him he was not qualified. It was because he didn't go to bible college. He worked in our local church and studyed under our Pastor at the time. The church recongized the calling of my husband and layed hands on him and sent him out. We then planted a church and the Lord has blessed us greatly. Colleges and seminaries was not the new testament pattern in Christ's time. I'm not against colleges but the Lord did not want my husband leaving the ministrys of our local church to get his training. Colleges don't recongize the calling of a man of God, it is the Local church that does this. [​IMG]
     
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  4. GIG

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    Amen Brother Glen ! I don't believe it is wrong to go to Bible College to help prepare to Pastor or Preach, But In my own case, I was 39 years old when called to preach, and God didn't call me to Bible College , He called me to Preach the Gospel!
     
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  5. tyndale1946

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    Mrs, KJV: I am pleasantly surprised hearing the answer to my question from a Baptist sister. You being a Pastors wife surely knows the trials and tribulations and persecutions your husband faced. I so happy things turned out for you and God truely called your husband to the ministry and trained him in it. I'm sure he doesn't need a DD after his name to show who he represents. The Primitive Baptist have always been known as breeding our own in the service of the Lord. None can understand it except those who have had the fire in their bones!... They have to preach!... God Bless You Both!... Brother Glen [​IMG]

    [ September 16, 2002, 10:36 PM: Message edited by: tyndale1946 ]
     
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    I'm 56 and have been a member of my church for 35 years. I've been going since the age of 7. I'm exercising now and will just wait on the Lord. Seem that all the Primitive Baptist preachers I know of personally are all homegrown... Brother Glen [​IMG]

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  7. Jabbezz

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    tyndale1946,

    Is your name really "Brother Glen," or is it "Glen." [​IMG]

    Just curious!
     
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    To my siblings and church folk I'm Brother Glen... My mom calls me son!... You can call me Brother Glen [​IMG] :D
     
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    The sad thing is that a lot of what is coming out of seminaries and colleges do not have a call on their lives to be a minister. I have seen a lot of young men come out of seminaries who have turned the ministry into a 40 hour a week job getting a pay check from a local church.

    They can give a talk but it never moves anyone towards Christ. Also a lot of what is coming out the seminaries and colleges now are very liberal in their beliefs. Some even challenge morals and the authenticity of the Word of God among other things.

    God is the one who equips men to preach and true there has been nothing wrong with men going to seminaries but lately they make me a little frightened by what I have experienced and have seen coming out of them.

    I have seen more great men of God who did not have a college degree then those who do.
     
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  10. Daniel David

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    God does call men to preach the Gospel. However, one of the qualifications for a pastor is an ability to teach. How many people see Bible college and seminary as an obstacle to them in their quest to blurt out their own pet peeves.

    If one attends a good Bible college, he is not only going to be able to teach, he will be able to answer the why questions that come up without giving the typical cop-out - well, just read your Bible.

    Out like hobby-horse preachers.
     
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  11. hrhema

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    You don't have to go to a college or seminary to get the answers to the Why questions.

    College and seminary does not stop a preacher from preaching his hobby horse messages. I have heard more of this from preachers out of a college or seminary then from those who have never been.

    As far as teaching, God can equip any many he calls to teach. It does not take a college or seminary for this. The Bible says it is the HOly Ghost who will teach men.
     
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  12. Daniel David

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    Of course God can equip anyone. That is not being disputed.

    In a good Bible college and seminary, you will at least be exposed to:

    Election
    Predestination
    Church (government and counseling)
    Preaching (styles and techniques)
    Eschatology
    Scripture (authority and inerrancy)
    God
    Christ
    Holy Spirit
    Spiritual Gifts
    Missions
    Evangelism
    etc.

    My point is that in just a few years, one would be exposed to all that and more and have a good idea about the ministry.

    Now, anyone can pick up a book and study on any one of those issues. However, in Bible college and seminary, he can be challenged by other students to help refine his views.

    In a Bible college and seminary, the opportunities are exponentially expanded to do those things.

    You can go into the wheat field with a sickle or you can go into the wheat field with a combine.

    It is your choice and God can bless either. Clearly though, the Bible college and seminary approach is much better.
     
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  13. Rev. G

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    One may certainly be called to be an elder / pastor in a local congregation without college or seminary training. One must still be trained, however, and that training must come from within the local body. Seminary can enrich and expand one's training.

    It should be remembered that a "call to ministry" is not merely a "subjective" matter ("I feel called"), but an objective one. A person's calling must be confirmed by the congregation. Not only that, one must meet the Scriptural qualifications of an elder.

    Having said that, there are many who are elders / pastors (and deacons) who are serving in our churches who are not biblically qualified.

    Rev. G
     
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  14. Jamal5000

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    If the Lord leads me in that direction, I may end up going to seminary after I finish my Master of Arts in Education (Early Childhood Education). The teaching training is essential to minstry because you need to model Christ and challenge them toward Christ's compelling truth.

    Do I believe I need to go to seminary for that? No, I don't, but "classical" training often improves your credibility than ad hoc training.
    Compare Beethoven with Fats Waller. Beethoven studied under some of the finest of his time. Fats Waller could not read one note of music, but both are considered geniuses.

    In the end, going to seminary will create a unqiue eye-opening experience that you can never get from the community of one church.

    In Christ,
    Jamal5000 [​IMG]
     
    #14 Jamal5000, Sep 18, 2002
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