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Calvinistic trend in the SBC

Discussion in 'General Baptist Discussions' started by Dale-c, Nov 29, 2007.

  1. Dale-c

    Dale-c Active Member

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    This is a very interesting article.

     
  2. preachinjesus

    preachinjesus Well-Known Member

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    Good research. I'm a big tent SBC guy. Just part of the territory. Let 'em be faithful in their ministries, give to the CP, and send out the called into ministry and missions. Let's work together for the Kingdom! :D

    Wait about ten years and survey again, probably will have retreated a bit. This is the ebb and flow of theological perspectives in denominational life. :)
     
  3. Dr. Bob

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    We are reformed Baptists (the independent version of Founders of the SBC) and find great joy in the exponential growth of calvinistic preaching in the SBC.

    It is the RETURN of the SBC to its roots.
     
  4. kmichael

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  5. kmichael

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    posted twice
     
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  7. Allan

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    It's roots have ALWAYS been the working of both Cal and Non-Cals together.

    The SBC was NEVER a soley Calvinistic organization.
     
  8. Allan

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    Why did I say misinformed or willfully ignorant? Was I just be antagonistic and mean? No, because either they choose not to know what is out there or they believe only what they are told.

    Are the Non-Cals the only ones who have Charismatics in their ranks as baptists?
    No!
    Here is an Association of Charismatic Reformed Churches:
    http://www.charismaticreformed.org/
    or here is blog spot:
    http://21stcenturyreformation.blogspot.com/2005/11/charismatic-reformed-position-and.html
    Or this Church in Tyler TX:
    http://www.christchapelchurch.org/

    These are just a FEW examples of the many Reformed Churches that are going into full fledge Charismatisism. Does this mean a large majority are Charismatics? No, but it is taking root and growing in the ranks of the Reformed.

    Or even Emerging Reformed Churches such as emerging Lutheran churches, the Acts 29 Network, or leaders like Mark Driscoll (Mars Hill) and others like Bob Robinson, and Dwight Friesen - again just to name a few!
     
  9. Tom Bryant

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    I am a narrow tent SBC. But Calvinists and non-Calvinists have always been inside that tent together.

    btw, the idea of grouping non-Calvinists with charismatics/post-modern and emergent is just silly. It is the kind of stereotyping that doesn't help at all!
     
  10. Dale-c

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    Dr. Bob, are you familiar with the Association of Reformed Baptist Churches?
    They are much more independent than the SBC as I understand it but there are actually churches that have dual membership.
     
  11. Dale-c

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    I do agree with this statement.
     
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  13. kmichael

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  14. 2 Timothy2:1-4

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    The "roots" of the SBC are particular and general baptists together. It is a misrepresentation to say otherwise. And we should be able to walk together.

    Also you will find many of the Emerging Church folks are reformed. In fact it is most likely the larger portion of them.
     
  15. kmichael

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    It is true that the SBC has traditionally included both Calvinistic and Arminian theologies, as well as hybrids (Arminists and Calminians).

    It is also true that I do not propose narrowing the SBC tent to exclude Arminians. I do however believe we must exclude those who ordain women, homosexuals, and dogs. And those who practice speaking in tongues and healing/faith ministries. I believe in church autonomy, but I do not believe a church can do the above things and be aligned with the SBC. That is just logical.


    Now, just an fyi, Mark Driscoll does not consider himself "emergent/ing" and he is in fact quite reformed in his theology.

    It is also true that the "Calvinist/Reformed" umbrella encompasses a wide range of theology. The Emergent Brand is NOT Reformed by any means. Those individuals who affirm the " 5 points" typically do so in the context of universalism.


    k
     
  16. StefanM

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    Kmichael, does your hyperbolic vitriol ever cease?
     
  17. kmichael

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    Please be specific. Nothing above was an exageration. (except the comment about ordaining dogs) :laugh:

    Nor was any of the above abusive. It is a crime now to declare an opinion?
     
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    Accusing a fellow BB member of idolatry is normal behavior for you? Wow.
     
  19. StefanM

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    Why are you defensive if you have said nothing worthy of criticism?
     
  20. kmichael

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    Ah, ic. You'll get over it.
     
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