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can A baptist Believe In Theistic Evolution?

Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by JesusFan, Mar 17, 2011.

  1. quantumfaith

    quantumfaith Active Member

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    Thank you for the levity, I too am often misunderstood making the same attempt. Blessings
     
  2. Deacon

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    A PRAYER OF MOSES, THE MAN OF GOD.
    Psalm 90:title (ESV) :tongue3:

    Are things getting hot in here?

    Oh, and there's another instance right in the creation accounts:

    These are the generations of the heavens and the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens.
    Genesis 2:4 (ESV)


    The “numbered days” thingy is a red herring.
    The argument looks strong but isn't after you study it out,
    its weaknesses are quite evident.

    Although it’s quite tedious, I challenge you to examine just the 42 instances where the word “day” is used with a number in Genesis.

    Genesis 1:3,5,8,13,19,23, 31;
    2:2,3;
    7::4, 10, 12, 17, 24;
    8:3,4,5,6,10,12,13,14;
    17:12
    21:4
    22:4
    24:55
    27:45
    30:36
    31:22,23
    33:13
    34:25
    39:11
    40:12,13,18,19,20
    42:17, 18
    50:3 (x2),10

    It’s quite clear (to me) that the times the word “day” with a number is used in the creation accounts are quite different from the way the word “day” is used in the later Genesis passages.

    Rob
     
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  3. Steadfast Fred

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    What is quite clear is that God understands 'day' differently than man.

    Moses never understood a day to mean 'x' amount of years. Nor did he ever understand it to mean 'x amount of months... or weeks.

    A day was a day then as a day is a day now. Measured from evening to evening.... a day.
     
  4. quantumfaith

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    Yes, Bob, it seems at reasonably evident to me that "time" takes on a "new dimension" following the "neshama" of mankind.
     
  6. DHK

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    I am not sure what you are getting at Deacon.
    I took your challenge and looked at just one reference that I chose at random.

    And it was told Laban on the third day that Jacob was fled.
    And he took his brethren with him, and pursued after him seven days' journey; and they overtook him in the mount Gilead. (Genesis 31:22-23)

    Are you saying that these references do not refer to 24 hour periods. I don't buy it. They sure look like 24 hour period days to me.
     
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    Fuller is not a liberal school. That is preposterous.
     
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    The later verses communicate a passage of time that relate to man alone.

    Rob
     
  9. DHK

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    God didn't write the Bible to educate himself. Genesis was written to give a historical account from the creation of the world and man to the end of the life of Joseph. The narrative picks up with the Book of Exodus. Jesus attributes all five books to Mosaic authorship.
     
  10. Steadfast Fred

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    Why, DHK, don't you realize it took them 38 million years to catch up with Jacob? They would have caught up with him sooner, but they had to circumvent a 63 million year old dinosaur who just wouldn't get out of their way.:tonofbricks:
     
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  11. quantumfaith

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    I am just guessing here, but you think that dinosaurs are simply a hoax of paleontologists?
     
  12. Steadfast Fred

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    I believe dinosaurs existed. While the term 'dinosaur' is a fairly modern term, they were known by other names in Bible times; i.e., dragons, behemoth, leviathan, etc..

    What is a hoax, is the alleged age of dinosaurs and the alleged time they became extinct.

    Of course, people had to make the dinosaurs that old to strengthen the hoax of a 65 million year old earth.
     
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    And by this you mean that all the various species of "dinosaurs" were in existence simultaneous with mankind?
     
  14. Steadfast Fred

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    They indeed were.

    They are actually only a matter of hours (not years) older than Adam.
     
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    I agree here. There is a wealth of evidence that dinosaurs lived in the very recent past. There is ancient art from many civilizations showing dinosaurs, often revealing details that weren't confirmed until the last few decades. There have also been several dinosaurs found with soft tissue intact, something that would be impossible if dinosaurs went extinct 65 million years ago. This is not some wild hoax created by creationists, you can find this information from major universities. Google "mummified dinosaur" to find many articles about these finds.
     
  16. Steadfast Fred

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    Thanks, Winman.

    I have several videos on dinosaurs and the age of the earth. I highly recommend Dr Dino's videos. Very informative.
     
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