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Can false beliefs keep you from salvation?

Discussion in 'General Baptist Discussions' started by matt wade, Jan 9, 2009.

  1. matt wade

    matt wade Well-Known Member

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    Here's the question I pose. Do you believe that false beliefs can keep you from salvation?

    Let's assume that someone professes to have a personal relationship with Jesus and believes that He died, was buried, and rose again. Normally (most of us anyway) would say that the person was "saved".

    So, here's the questions:

    What if that person didn't believe in the virgin birth?

    What if they didn't believe that Jesus was with God in the beginning?

    What if they believe that, while they placed their faith in Jesus, there are other ways to reconcile with God and receive eternal life?

    Does this person not believe in the same Jesus that died on the cross for us since they don't believe properly? Can these false beliefs be a barrier to their salvation?
     
  2. MNJacob

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    Are you asking if JWs are saved?
     
  3. Jim1999

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    Iwould seriously question what this person was taught before he cliamed to believe on Jesus as a personal Saviour. I would be asking what made him believe that the Jesus he knows actually saves.

    Something is strange in this scenario, in my opinion.

    Cheers,

    Jim

    Please excuse my typing, My fingers need redemption of sorts.
     
  4. tinytim

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    If they don't believe Jesus is God, They have no idea who Jesus is...
    Without knowing Jesus.. you can't go to Heaven.

    They have created in their imagination a false Jesus.
     
  5. Marcia

    Marcia Active Member

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    I think some people can believe in Christ and be saved without knowing or understanding some doctrines. However, in time, the person, if truly saved, would accept teachings such as the Trinity, the virgin birth, etc. If they rejected these or other teachings about God and Jesus, one would have to wonder if there was salvation.

    If it is not the right Jesus - if it is a Mormon Jesus, New Age Jesus, JW Jesus, etc. then I do not think they can be saved. They have to believe in the Biblical Jesus, -- not all understanding of every doctrine needs to be present at the moment of salvation, though eventually, essential biblical doctrines would be accepted.

    I think the test would be to see what the person believes over a period of time after the professed belief.

    There is a difference between false beliefs and not understanding certain doctrines such as the Trinity. A denial (not ignorance of or misunderstanding) of things like the Trinity, the virgin birth, etc. would cause me to question if the person believed in the true Jesus.
     
  6. John Toppass

    John Toppass Active Member

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    If he believes that God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten Son so that who so ever believes in Him shall not perish and have everlasting life, and has accepted Jesus Christ the Son of God as his personal savior, then he is saved.

    The rest he will learn as the Holy Spirit feeds and develops the immature new Christian.
     
  7. donnA

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    Looks like redefining who Jesus is, in that case it isn' the Bible Jesus they believe in, but a Jesus they made up. Theres no salvation in a made up version of Jesus.
     
  8. matt wade

    matt wade Well-Known Member

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    Thanks for the responses so far :). FYI, this is a hypothetical situation, not one I've actually encountered. I've had the discussion with others and have found varying opinions.

    I believe the same as most of you. If you don't believe in some of the fundamental truths of Jesus (virgin birth, the deity of Jesus, etc) then you aren't placing faith into the Jesus that I know and the one that saves.
     
  9. gb93433

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    A lot of what the person does once they make a profession of faith has to do with what led us to that decision. If easy believism was taught then their decision will be based on that.
     
  10. Aaron

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    A doctrine doesn't save us, a Person saves us.

    That being said, to deny a cardinal doctrine is to reveal an evil heart of unbelief in departing from the living God. (I'm assuming you mean that one actually rejects the teaching and not that one is merely ignorant thereof.)

    See answer above.

    One who acknowledges other ways beside Christ that one can be saved, hasn't really placed his faith in Jesus.

    Can one be mistaken or ignorant? Certainly. Can one reject these doctrines? No.

    Absolutely.
     
  11. Jon-Marc

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    Yes, false beliefs most definitely can keep you from salvation, if a person believes that salvation is obtained any way other than what the word of God say. It is "By grace---through faith---NOT of works". Eph. 2:8,9

    It is only because of the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ and His shed blood.
     
  12. JustChristian

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    A false faith, such as believing in a false god, WILL keep you from salvation. Let's don't throw everything out. Faith is required for salvation.
     
  13. Jon-Marc

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    Was there something wrong with what I said? All I'm throwing out is anything that is contrary to God's word.
     
  14. gb93433

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    Salvation is not dependent upon us, but Christ. To know the God who is requires knowing the truth about God and Jesus. That truth is not found in a religion but in scripture. If scripture is adulterated then how can one know the truth unless truth is contained in the text. If the truth is changed to represent a false Jesus then the person who believes in that message would believe in a false Jesus and not the savior.
     
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