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Can NATO Trust Obama's Promise to Defend the Pact?

Discussion in 'News & Current Events' started by righteousdude2, Sep 4, 2014.

  1. righteousdude2

    righteousdude2 Well-Known Member
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    I don't need to remind you of the MANY, many promises to Americans and the world (remember the red line on chemical weapons use in Syria), so should our allies, and countries needing American assistance, TAKE him at his word?

    You tell me?
     
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    We can't trust Obama to do anything except play golf.
     
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    0bam@ does not care what KGB Lt. Col. Putin does. 0bam@ promised the KGB Lt. Col. more flexibility after the 2012 election.
     
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    No one anywhere can trust any promise made by a serial liar like Obama.
     
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    I bet he cheats. :laugh:
     
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    Obeyme has plenty of flexibility. I'd bet the other NATO leaders in Wales hate it when he walks in the room and sucks out all the oxygen.
     
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    :laugh: That's good...should we take him at his word...as if one would. This, however, should be moved to the humor section of the BB. You mistakenly placed it in "News/Current Events."
     
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    Yes, he did, and now we know exactly what that flexibility was including!
     
  9. poncho

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    Now c'mon. We all know the man can't tell the truth. Except for when he's saying things you all want to believe, despite the complete lack evidence to support that which he claims.

    I think he knows how to play you all just like violins.
     
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    No they can't. The entire world knows he has no backbone.
     
  11. poncho

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    I hear alot about this "Russian agression" but I don't see anyone coming forward with any credible evidence that actually proves the Russian's started all this.

    Where is this elusive evidence???

    About this "red line" you do understand that it was the Islamic head choppers that Obama, Clinton and McCain were supporting with our tax dollars that used the chemical weapons and not the Assad regime right? These are the same Islamic head choppers that "suddenly appeared out of nowhere" to form ISIS. ISIS is Washington's proxy army of Islamic head choppers and crucifiers run amuck.

    Now we have Washington doing a repeat in Ukraine of what it did in Libya and Syria, namely backing violent extremists to effect "regime change" once again. These yahoos in Washington have a bad habit of poking people in the eye with a sharp stick only to accuse them of "acting aggressive" when they flinch. We've been through this how many times now and you all still fall for it?

    Washington and NATO is the problem. They're a bunch of lying hypocrites and they have more blood on their hands from all their "pre emptive regime changes" than anyone they accuse of being evil.
     
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    ISIS is armed with high-tech American weaponry racing, killing, maiming, etc across n. Iraq.

    Where, how and by whom were they trained to use this weaponry?

    HankD
     
  13. poncho

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    Do you really need to ask Hank?

    A recent Daily Telegraph article reveals that armies of Al Qaeda terrorists are using NATO-member Turkey as a springboard for their invasion of neighboring Syria.

    NATO is the chief executor of the so-called “War on Terror,” started in 2001 after Al Qaeda terrorists allegedly flew four passenger planes into various targets on America’s east coast, including the World Trade Towers and the Pentagon. Nearly 3,000 people died in a single day. The invasion of Afghanistan promptly followed based on the pretense that it was “harboring” members of Al Qaeda. The invasion and nearly decade-long occupation of Iraq followed shortly thereafter.

    Yet despite all of this, Turkey, a NATO member since the early 1950′s, appears to be guilty of the very crime Afghanistan was allegedly invaded and to this day still occupied for, harboring Al Qaeda terrorists. An army of Al Qaeda is (and has been for nearly 3 years) using southern Turkey as a safe-haven and staging ground for the invasion of Syria – disingenuously portrayed by the Western media as a “civil war.”

    Worst of all, these terrorists, literally carrying Al Qaeda’s banner into battle, are passing CIA outposts, US, British, and French special operations training camps, and through Western-funded refugee camps, on their way to commit a wide array of atrocities along and within Syria’s borders.

    This defies all explanations except one - the “War on Terror” is a fraud, and the very terrorists thousands of Western troops have died chasing across the planet, have been armed, funded, trained, propped up, and reconstituted by the West itself as a perpetual excuse to engage in global aggression, occupation, and wars of immense profit in both terms of wealth and geopolitical power.

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/nato-and-cia-support-al-qaeda-terrorists-in-syria/5356391

    How and Why the USA Has Sponsored Terrorism in the Mid East Since at Least 1948

    Syria

    The USA started carrying out coups, assassinating leaders, and sponsoring terrorism and extremists in Syria in 1948, continuing to the present moment, as everyone knows, under Obama. Examples, provided by David North:

    “The Eisenhower administration was troubled by the popularity of the “progressive front,” which was backed by elements in the Syrian army led by Colonel Adnan Malki. The United States was particularly angry that Malki’s faction opposed Syrian membership in the anti-Soviet Baghdad Pact, modeled on NATO, which the Eisenhower administration set up in January 1955. On April 22, 1955, Malki was assassinated while attending a soccer match by a member of the pro-US and right-wing Syrian Social National Party. An official investigation into the assassination found that the US was a major supporter and financier of the SSNP. It was well known that the SSNP had close ties with the CIA.”

    “Working closely with its counterparts in British intelligence, the CIA and the British SIS developed Operation Straggle. In what appears today to be an early model of the present US-orchestrated “rebel” insurgency [in Syria]:”

    “The original CIA-SIS plan appears to have called for Turkey to stage border incidents, British operatives to stir up the desert tribes, and American agents to mobilize SSNP guerillas, all of which would trigger a pro-Western coup by “indigenous anticommunist elements within Syria” supported, if necessary, by Iraqi troops. What Washington perceived as a deteriorating situation in Damascus made Straggle more and more attractive. [Little, p. 66]“

    “The coup planned by the CIA was scheduled to take place on October 25, 1956. The CIA had provided $150,000 to the conspirators.”

    Dr. Noam Chomsky notes (and here): “The US at that time had three major crisis areas, according to the internal discussions, all in Islamic countries, all in oil-producers. One was Indonesia, one was Algeria, one was basically Iraq — the Iraqi region. Those were the three crises. It was made explicit in the internal meetings. In fact, Eisenhower, vociferously, according to the minutes, insisted on this: there was no Russian involvement. The enemy is indigenous nationalism. In fact, that’s true throughout the Cold War, but very explicit then, and Eisenhower did discuss it with his staff…”

    The USA’s sponsorship of terrorism in Syria and everywhere in the Mid East and globally was maintained with complete continuity after the fall of the Soviet Union, exhibiting how much that empty pretext was worth. Pretexts will always be updated to pacify an uninformed public into accepting elite marauding and plunder, and even get them to naively cheer it on.

    Afghanistan

    n the late 1970s, the USA started supporting Islamic terrorists to carry out atrocities in Afghanistan to induce the Soviet Union to intervene to protect its client government. Obama’s mentor Zbigniew Brzezinski planned to give Russia “its Vietnam”, meaning the US wanted to start another war that would pile up millions of corpses and be costly for Russia (which Obama is trying today in Ukraine). After three official requests from the Afghan government, the Soviet Union answered and invaded, and thus the US succeeded in its goal as some two million corpses were piled up in the brutal war.

    The problem in Afghanistan was that US elites wanted to control its resources and strategic space as part of their worldwide bid to direct profits into their pockets, but with the Soviet-backed government in place, they couldn’t.

    Here is one of Obama’s mentors, Zbigniew Brzezinski, at the time, egging on some of the Holy Warriors who would then enter Afghanistan. He tells them God is on their side, etc.:

    Read more At: http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2014/09/usa-sponsored-terrorism-mid-east-since-least-1948.html
     
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