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Can Women Baptise Men?

Discussion in '2005 Archive' started by Ben W, Jun 8, 2005.

  1. Scott J

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    Most baptisms will continue to be performed by ministers, thus men, for the immediate future.

    OTOH, I don't see even where this was made the responsibility of the pastor in the Bible. Evangelists/witnesses are the scriptural examples of baptizers.
     
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    If that was directed at me the answer has already been given on this thread by other posters. I also see from the examples in scripture that it seems men were the only ones baptizing. Plus I believe it would be displaying a level of authority over a man within the Body of Christ. Oh well, as it has been said each baptist church is different. [​IMG]
     
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    If that was directed at me the answer has already been given on this thread by other posters. I also see from the examples in scripture that it seems men were the only ones baptizing. Plus I believe it would be displaying a level of authority over a man within the Body of Christ. Oh well, as it has been said each baptist church is different. [​IMG] </font>[/QUOTE]The early Christians were baptized naked. So you are willing to assume that a man baptize a naked woman during that time.
     
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    If that was directed at me the answer has already been given on this thread by other posters. I also see from the examples in scripture that it seems men were the only ones baptizing. Plus I believe it would be displaying a level of authority over a man within the Body of Christ. Oh well, as it has been said each baptist church is different. [​IMG] </font>[/QUOTE]I don't think any scripture has been given to support your view, only personal, cultural preferences. Would you please just quote where scripture has been provided already? Thanks.

    Joseph Botwinick [​IMG]
     
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    1Timothy 2:12

    I believe it would be an act of authority over a man.

    I do not recall the Bible saying Jesus was naked when He was baptized. But as I said, your church can do things the way you want and mine will do things differently because we attempt to be correct in all our practices (as I am sure you do too).
     
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    Do you believe that John the Baptist had authority over Jesus? You are relying on cultural argument and not scripture.

    Joseph Botwinick
     
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    Actually it has nothing to do with the person doing the baptising and all to do with the person being baptised.
     
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    If that was directed at me the answer has already been given on this thread by other posters. I also see from the examples in scripture that it seems men were the only ones baptizing. Plus I believe it would be displaying a level of authority over a man within the Body of Christ. Oh well, as it has been said each baptist church is different. [​IMG] </font>[/QUOTE]The early Christians were baptized naked. So you are willing to assume that a man baptize a naked woman during that time. </font>[/QUOTE]Where do you get that from?

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    No I do not believe anyone has authority over Jesus Christ. However, I believe that a woman baptizing a man asserts a certain authority (to baptize).
     
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    Based on what Scripture do you believe this? This is a cultural preference, not a scriptural issue, and either way, I think we can allow freedom to the local Church without actually disobeying scripture...unless you can show me from scripture where it is forbidden.

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    Joseph,

    I said that your church seeks to do things scripturally and my church does as well. Now there is not a scripture that says, "Women cannot baptize men". But there is also no scripture to say you should not stomp on the heads of baby kittens and laugh as they die but you shouldn't.

    I never forbid anything you or your church practice. I just stated where my church stands upon that issue. Furthermore, the pastor is the only one that baptizes at my church, although he has stated that other members (male) may baptize.
     
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    1. That is silly to compare women baptizing men to stomping on the head of a kitten.

    2. I agree that this issue is a cultural personal preference and not a scriptural issue. [​IMG]

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    Joseph,

    It I do not think it's silly. I was not saying it was as bas as that, but just giving an illustration. Some things scripture is not clear on. We have to pray and ask God's guidance in attempt to see what we believe scripture says.

    Just know that I believe the way I do because I think that's the way scripture teaches (eventhough it is not direct). When approaching any issue dealing with scripture I try to do it humbly. My point is I don't believe the way I do because I have a low opinion of women or because I think women are second class citizens. I have a high respect for women as everyone should.
     
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    I said nothing about your view of women. I only said that your view on this issue is based on cultural personal preference, and not scripture. And, that is true.

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    Joseph,

    I didn't mean to sound like you did. I was just stating that. I already said there was no scripture that explicitly teaches it. But that is the practice I follow because the general direction of scripture. You have your view and I have mine. As we both have a right to do. Have a blessed night.
     
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    I can't believe that this is even being discussed. Women are to have NO authority over ANY man other than her children. To baptize is to show authority.
     
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    Hello Carpinator,

    1. Can you show me this from scripture...that baptizing is either showing authority or forbidden for women?

    2. Do you believe that John the Baptist had authority over Jesus?

    Joseph Botwinick
     
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    1. No...I can't. Its more of a common sense thing. Baptizing someone is showing spiritual leadership over them...right?

    2. "for thus it becometh us to fulfil all righteousness"....then he suffered him.
     
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    1. If you cannot show me this from scripture, then it is nothing more to me than your opinion based on cultural preference, and should not be taken as a mandate for all Christians. It might be common sense to you, but it is not for me.

    2. Did John the Baptist have authority over Jesus?

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    You really threw away what the early church did. Women were baptized naked and were baptized by another women. That is a fact whether you like it or not. That is not exercising authority over men. It is one woman baptizing another.
    Men baptized men and women baptized women. In fact the pastor of a church did not contact a woman directly but through a deacon who contacted a deaconess who contacted the woman. In some countries it is still this way. Good prevention against lust and improper conduct.
     
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