1. Welcome to Baptist Board, a friendly forum to discuss the Baptist Faith in a friendly surrounding.

    Your voice is missing! You will need to register to get access to all the features that our community has to offer.

    We hope to see you as a part of our community soon and God Bless!

Cardinal Lustiger the next Pope, I hope not ...Read this soon

Discussion in '2003 Archive' started by Jesusmyfriend, Jul 22, 2003.

  1. Jesusmyfriend

    Jesusmyfriend New Member

    Jul 12, 2003
    Likes Received:

    French Cardinal Lustiger is considered by most in the know within the Catholic Church as being the most likely next in line for the office of Pope. He is currently and has been a close friend of the current Pope John Paul for years.

    Related links to excerpt below:






    The English Code Letter Values

    A=6 B=12 C=18 D=24 E=30 F=36 G=42 H=48 I=54 J=60 K=66 L=72 M=78 N=84 O=90 P=96 Q=102 R=108 S=114 T=120 U=126 V=132 W =138 X=144 Y=150 Z=156

    We will start with the 666 findings first. Then we will look at the 444, 906 and the other match total patterns. IMPORTANT NOTE: All groups shown on this page are calculated by the same exact alphabet key shown above.

    Lustiger = 666

    Kissinger = 666

    Sorceries = 666








    False Market=666




    Mark of Beast=666


    Book of the Dead=666

    Son of Sin=666

    A Perdition=666





    Other Interesting 666 totals

    New York=666 (United Nations?)

    Waco Texas=666 (David Koresh?)

    A Branch Davidian=666 (David Koresh's group)

    Almost 666 but not quite

    Osama bin Laden = 660

    Adolf Hitler = 660

    Group 1 - Match Patterns 444

    Jesus = 444

    Yshua = 444

    Messiah = 444

    Cross = 444

    Gospel = 444

    Jewish = 444

    Joshua = 444

    Obedient = 444

    Increase = 444

    Forgave = 444

    English = 444

    Gematria = 444

    Parent = 444

    Church age = 444

    Fruit = 444

    Chariot = 444

    Group 2 - Match Patterns 906

    Jesus is Lord = 906

    Jesus Christ = 906

    Son of the Lord = 906

    Lord's Prayer = 906

    Holy Spirit = 906

    Lord of Hosts = 906

    Through Love = 906

    Unconditional = 906

    Healing Promise = 906

    Group 3 - Match Patterns 888

    Omnipresent = 888

    Messiah Jesus = 888

    Coming Truth = 888

    A Holy Truth = 888

    King of the Sabbath = 888

    The King Jesus = 888

    Finished Cross = 888

    The Lion of Judah = 888

    Scriptures = 888

    The Trinity = 888

    The Lord's Time = 888

    The House of God = 888

    The Doings of God = 888

    It should be noted that the Koine Greek value of Jesus's name by the Greek values is 888. This is not debated by anyone it is a well established fact for centuries.

    Group 4

    Grace = 204

    Free = 204

    One = 204

    Group 5

    Holy = 360

    Pure = 360

    Word = 360

    Believe = 360

    Helps = 360

    Group 6

    Faith = 264

    Hope = 264

    Abraham = 264

    Godhead = 264

    Group 7

    Satan = 330

    Wicked = 330

    Jailer = 330

    Exile = 330

    Judas = 330

    New Age = 330

    Revelation 13:16-18

    13:16 He causes all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and the slave, to be marked on their right hand, or on their forehead; 17 so that no one would be able to buy or to sell, unless they have the mark, which is, the name of the beast or the number of his name. 18 Here is wisdom. He who has understanding, let him calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man. His number is six hundred sixty-six.

    Revelation 14:9-11

    9 A third angel followed them and said in a loud voice: If anyone worships the beast or his image or receives his mark on their forehead or hand, 10 the same shall drink of the wrath of God in it's full strength. He will be tormented with burning sulfur in the presence of the Holy Angels and of the Lamb. 11 And the smoke of their torment rises for ever and ever. There is no rest day or night for those who worship the beast or it's image, or for anyone who receives the mark of his name.

    Revelation 16:1-2

    1 Then I heard a loud voice from the temple to the seven angels, Go pour out the seven bowls of God's wrath upon the earth. 2 So then the first angel went and poured out his bowl on the earth, and painful unsightly boils broke out among the people who had taken the mark of the beast or worshiped it's image.

    The Main Page | The Number 777 |Forums
  2. BrianT

    BrianT New Member

    Mar 20, 2002
    Likes Received:
    *cough* numerology *cough*
  3. dianetavegia

    dianetavegia Guest

    Well put BrianT! Here's a lozenge for that cough. [​IMG]



  4. mioque

    mioque New Member

    May 23, 2003
    Likes Received:
    Rule number 1 when it comes to papal elections, if your name is mentioned as a serious candidate, you are not going to be the next pope.
  5. Johnv

    Johnv New Member

    Oct 24, 2001
    Likes Received:
    What's the letter value for the word "tripe"?
  6. Johnv

    Johnv New Member

    Oct 24, 2001
    Likes Received:
    How true [​IMG] .
  7. aefting

    aefting New Member

    Sep 17, 2002
    Likes Received:
    NIV ONLY = 666 :eek:
  8. Grasshopper

    Grasshopper Active Member
    Site Supporter

    Apr 19, 2002
    Likes Received:
    13:16 He causes all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and the slave, to be marked on their right hand, or on their forehead;

    Literal or Figurtive?

    What does the Old Testament say?

    9 And it shall be for a sign unto thee upon thy hand, and for a memorial between thine eyes, that the law of Jehovah may be in thy mouth: for with a strong hand hath Jehovah brought thee out of Egypt.

    Deut. 6
    8 And thou shalt bind them for a sign upon thy hand, and they shall be for frontlets between thine eyes.

    Deut. 11
    18 Therefore shall ye lay up these my words in your heart and in your soul; and ye shall bind them for a sign upon your hand, and they shall be for frontlets between your eyes.

    Eze. 9:3 And the glory of the God of Israel was gone up from the cherub, whereupon it was, to the threshold of the house: and he called to the man clothed in linen, who had the writer's inkhorn by his side.
    4 And Jehovah said unto him, Go through the midst of the city, through the midst of Jerusalem, and set a mark upon the foreheads of the men that sigh and that cry over all the abominations that are done in the midst thereof.
  9. Jesusmyfriend

    Jesusmyfriend New Member

    Jul 12, 2003
    Likes Received:
    The Total value of Tripe: 408


    The total value for the below is:

    Jesusmyfriend = 1008
    BrianT = 384
    Dianeetavegia = 588
    Mioque = 480
    Johnv = 414
    Aefting = 372
    Grasshopper = 852

    These are the totals of your users names using the same alphabet key that was used for the 444, 666, 888 and 906 patterns shown above. So tell me what are the odds friends? You really should take a serious look because all this mocking does not make you look good. I'm sure Jesus is not laughing anymore about your mocking.

    Take a look, pray, study before you mock and scoff. Is is not written there would be mockers and scoffers in the last days? Are you really sure your not one of those scoffers Jesus spoke of? The Jews that hated Jesus thought they had it all figured out too. History is repeating itself right before your eyes, but will you have eyes to realize it's you that needs correction, not I or this information. Because if you don't it may be you that misses it this time, not the Jews.

    Praise Jesus for his mercy on you.
  10. Ron Grove

    Ron Grove New Member

    Jul 5, 2003
    Likes Received:
    I'm nost sure I follow all the numerology in the post in relation to the title of the posting. I presume this is yet another effort to make the next apostate roman catholic heritic-in-chief the beast of revelation? If so then bring it on. After another long day at work I'm about ready for the Lord to come and take me to paradise. Anyone else? [​IMG]

    In Christ,
  11. Jesusmyfriend

    Jesusmyfriend New Member

    Jul 12, 2003
    Likes Received:
    There is a 1158 and a 792 match pattern that relates to the Catholic Church but the author won't add it to his main pages, at least not yet.
    He says he must do more research on that pattern before adding it to his pages. If you want you can see that discussion at the Calculator new match total findings forum within PZH.


    Roman Catholic Church = 1158

    Mother of Harlots = 1158


    False Religion = 792

    Roman Catholic = 792
  12. Brother Adam

    Brother Adam New Member

    Jul 31, 2001
    Likes Received:
    That is the biggest load of BS I've ever read. Christ had something to say about it too. Who knows what it is?
  13. Jesusmyfriend

    Jesusmyfriend New Member

    Jul 12, 2003
    Likes Received:
    The future Mark of the Beast - The buying and selling mark of the Antichrist

    Sadly there are many Christians currently teaching that the future buying and selling mark of the Antichrist is not a literal mark. These erred Christians believe that this mark is only a spiritual mark. Do not believe these erred Christians, it will cost you everything someday if you do. Brothers and sisters this future mark will be literial as well as spiritual. It's not one or the other, but both. The Greek word for the word mark as used in Revelation 13:16-18 is the Greek word: charagma. It's usage means to mark by scratching or etching. This means we are talking about literal mark. When you read all of Revelation 13 you will notice as well that the Antichrist will eventually demand worship. The penalty for worshiping this future Antichrist is the same as taking the mark. It will bring God's wrath upon any person who takes it at the time of God's judgments.

    Smart cards, National ID cards, biometric scans, eye scans are not the mark of the beast, unless this information is compiled and then applied to your right hand or forehead. If it's not applied to the right hand or forehead then it is not the mark of the beast. However, any technology or tattoo that is required to be put on, or in your right hand always reject. You will know when it's the mark, for you will be restricted from buying or selling unless you take it. It will also be required to be put on, or in the right hand or forehead. Never take this mark, I highly stress the word NEVER.

    Charagma pronounced: khar'-ag-mah,
    a scratch or etching, inscribe engrave i.e. stamp (as a badge of servitude), or scupltured figure (statue):--graven, mark.

    Implantable human tracking chip launched
    Injected under your skin


    Friday, July 18, 2003 Posted: 9:59 AM EDT (1359 GMT)

    Carlos Altamirano is implanted with the VeriChip, a microchip that is used to confirm everything from health history to identity.

    MEXICO CITY, Mexico (AP) -- Borrowing from technology for tracking pets, a U.S. company on Thursday launched Mexican sales of microchips that can be implanted under a person's skin and used to confirm health history and identity.

    The microchips, already available in the United States, could tap into a growing industry surrounding Mexico's criminal concerns. Kidnappings, robberies and fraud are common here, and Mexicans are constantly looking for ways to protect themselves against crime.

    The microchip, the size of a grain of rice, is implanted in the arm or hip. Hospital officials and security guards use a scanning device to download a serial number, which they then use to access blood type, name and other information on a computer.
    Implanted into the arm

    In a two-hour presentation, Palm Beach, Florida-based Applied Digital Solutions introduced reporters to the VeriChip and used a syringe-like device and local anesthetic to implant a sample in the right arm of employee Carlos Altamirano.

    "It doesn't hurt at all," he said. "The whole process is just painless."

    Another chip user, Luis Valdez, who is diabetic, said the chip is "as innovative to me as the cell phone."

    In the United States, the Food and Drug Administration has said it would not regulate the implant as long as it contains no medical data. Thus, the information is stored in a separate database and not on the chip itself. Although regulations are different in Mexico, the Mexican version of the chip will still use the database framework.
    Hospitals to get scanners

    Antonio Aceves, the director of the Mexican company in charge of distributing the chip here, said that in the first year of sales, the company hoped to implant chips in 10,000 people and ensure that at least 70 percent of all hospitals had the technology to read the devices.

    Antonio Aceves holds the VeriChip.

    Similar technology has been used on dogs and cats as a way to identify the pets if they are lost or stolen.

    Company officials said they are working on developing similar technology that would use satellites to help find people who may have been kidnapped.

    While the idea of using the chip to track people has raised privacy concerns in the United States, the idea has been popular with Mexicans.
    identity only after a body is found.
  14. Berean Searcher

    Berean Searcher New Member

    Jul 19, 2003
    Likes Received:
    Ummm...not to be rude...but isnt there something written about numerology and divination somewhere that says it's a BIG no-no?????

    B. S.
  15. Jeffrey H

    Jeffrey H New Member

    Jul 3, 2003
    Likes Received:

    Why should I care who the next Pope will be? This is a serious question. The Pope has no bearing and control on my life. I fear the Lord, not the Pope.

  16. mozier

    mozier New Member

    Mar 13, 2003
    Likes Received:
    Cardinal Jean-Marie Lustiger (Archbishop of Paris) is also around 80 years old or something. He is already considered way too old to be pope.

    Yes, I know, John XXIII was 76 years old when he was elected in 1958, but that was only because the election was hopelessly deadlocked and he was considered a "compromise" candidate who wouldn't last long. So even though he did do much in his papacy (he began Vatican II in 1962), he lasted only about 5 years.

    Cardinal Martini (yes, that is his name)was considered a media-darling liberal who would easily become pope, but he is also hitting the 80 mark soon.

    Pope John Paul II was 58 years old when elected, and is now 83. This October will mark 25 years as pope for him. And despite his many ailments, he is still mentally sharp and will most likely outlive all of them.

  17. Primitive Baptist

    Primitive Baptist New Member

    May 20, 2002
    Likes Received:
    This is just speculative nonsense!
  18. Johnv

    Johnv New Member

    Oct 24, 2001
    Likes Received:

    Look at the results. The results are manipulated by including, or dropping "a" or "the", in an effort to achieve the desired result.

    We've taken a serious look, and seen that it is a charlatain's attempt at numerology.

    I'm sure Jesus is satisfied that we have not been deceived by this type of garbage.

    Okay. I've looked, prayed, and studled. Can I scoff now?

    Is it not written there will be false prophets in the last days? Is it also not written that participating in numerology is to be avoided?

    Yes, I'm sure.

    Then, it's a good thing we don't hate Jesus.

    Yes, charlatains have popped up frequently in history.

    If I were to accept that, I'd be accepting a lie. Not to mention, I'd have to go against what the Bible says.

    Not according to the Bible.

    Same to you. Looks like you'll be needing it. :rolleyes:
  19. Grasshopper

    Grasshopper Active Member
    Site Supporter

    Apr 19, 2002
    Likes Received:
    When you read all of Revelation 13 you will notice as well that the Antichrist will eventually demand worship.

    Funny, I don't find "anti-christ" anywhere in Revelation.

    If you take Revelation literal then start with Rev.1 vs. 1&3. I bet you don't take "shortly" and "near" literal.
  20. Primitive Baptist

    Primitive Baptist New Member

    May 20, 2002
    Likes Received:
    Dispensational Premillennialists interpret Bible prophecy literalistically, but not literally, and there is a difference. If a New Testament writer interprets an Old Testament prophecy spiritually, the Amillennarian who accepts the spiritual interpretation is taking a more literal approach than the Dispensational Premillennialist who contends with the spiritual New Testament interpretation of an Old Testament Scripture. I do not take a Preterist approach to the book of Revelation, but to interpret the Revelation from chapter four on as completely future, and to say that the contents in the book had no bearing on the first-century church is absurd.