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Catholic Deception???

Discussion in 'Other Christian Denominations' started by Dr. Walter, Aug 20, 2010.

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  1. gekko

    gekko New Member

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    you just said the same thing as me in different words... =)
     
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  2. gekko

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    just had to point that out for you Dr. Walter. =)

    go therefore, and teach all nations -- meaning, teaching everyone to "observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you" -- which also consists of being "born again" or "born of the Spirit"

    anyways, whole point of this post was to show you that Jesus did say "baptize."
     
    #22 gekko, Aug 22, 2010
  3. Dr. Walter

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    you are right. I misread you
     
    #23 Dr. Walter, Aug 22, 2010
  4. Gold Dragon

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    I'm curious. Which Catholic apologists say that Rome claims people can go to heaven without baptism as a general rule?

    I agree with you that these are stated as exceptions and not the general rule.

    I think it is similar to how some evangelicals and baptists say that there may be rare exceptions to the rule that people need to repent and confess Christ as Lord to be saved. Those rare situations might be children under an "age of accountability", those who are disabled mentally and those who never had the opportunity to hear the gospel.
     
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  5. Dr. Walter

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    on this forum Thinkingstuff defends the position that Rome teaches salvation is obtainable without baptism. According to thinkingstuff you are misrepresenting Rome by saying you agree with me that these are "exceptions and not the general rule."

    I understand your analogy to the Baptist position about infants and mentally handicapped persons. You are right most Baptists would claim that infants and the mentally handicapped are exceptions to the general rule. However, Baptists would still be consistent that they must be regenerated by the Spirit of God and that occurs without baptism.
     
    #25 Dr. Walter, Aug 23, 2010
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