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Catholic vs. Baptist

Discussion in 'Other Discussions' started by aimee, Jan 29, 2018.

  1. aimee

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    I am engaged to a Catholic. I have been baptist all of my life. I am not stuck on being a Baptist. I stay in a Baptist church because I like my church. I know I cannot convert to be a Catholic however i can meet in the middle somehow or be nondenominational. I was married for 18 years and my husband left me for a 26 year old. I did not file for my divorce because I do not believe in divorce. It has been five years and I have moved on and God has blessed my life outside of that divorce. My fiance is a Catholic and recently his priest told the both of us that I am adulterer because i did not get an annulment from my marriage so if he marries me he will become an adulterer and is no longer permitted to take communion in his church with his children. I was very hurt by this and needless to say I do not even want to go back in the Catholic church. I have studied a lot about his religion and the priest is enforcing the rules of the church but I am so hurt by this. What are your thoughts on this upcoming marriage being successful?
     
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    First of all - is your fiance born again?
    Second - this mixed marriage will be very hard to manage.
    You say your fiance will not be able to take comminuim with the RC chruch
    Doe he plan on still attending.
    Have you spoken to the pastor of the Baptist church you are attending.

    Aimee, please take a hard look at this situation.
     
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    We have been dating for almost 2 years and have known each other all of our lives. We have had many in depth discussions about this topic. He is a believer. At the moment he doesn't want to leave the Catholic church. He would like to go to church with me and then make sure he can make a mass at some point during the weekend. At this moment I am not agreeing to that. we had a marriage license and I let it expire because I just couldn't sign up for anything to do with the Catholic religion. I know he feels torn and his christian walk has grown tremendously since we have been together but I'm not sure he will be able to disconnect from his church. Because I have been married before I know how hard marriage can be and I can't image doing it without God in the center of it so this is a hard one. I love him and he is a very good to me. He wants God in the center of our relationship but I can't wrap my brain around not being one when it comes to church.
     
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    We have been dating for almost 2 years and have known each other all of our lives. We have had many in depth discussions about this topic. He is a believer. At the moment he doesn't want to leave the Catholic church. He would like to go to church with me and then make sure he can make a mass at some point during the weekend. At this moment I am not agreeing to that. we had a marriage license and I let it expire because I just couldn't sign up for anything to do with the Catholic religion. I know he feels torn and his christian walk has grown tremendously since we have been together but I'm not sure he will be able to disconnect from his church. Because I have been married before I know how hard marriage can be and I can't image doing it without God in the center of it so this is a hard one. I love him and he is a very good to me. He wants God in the center of our relationship but I can't wrap my brain around not being one when it comes to church.

    #3aimee, Today at 10:20 PM
     
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    This sounds like it will not work out to me. Firstly, he will be living in a sinful state if you do not get an annulment of your first marriage and secondly you do not like the idea of not being apart because you two are not on the same page when it comes to religion. If those are the facts, then you will simply have to go your separate ways.
     
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    Some religiously mixed marriages can be worse than long-distance ones when that unfortunately takes place due to work of one partner or other reasons. But, even the poor ones might find a way to scrap up some change to visit the other occasionally. Hopefully, through some help from family or other sources and they'll get together in one place. In the meantime, it can be very stressful. A mate not being present physically or absent emotionally is a real trial.

    I have been a Baptist for 40 years. My best friend is a Catholic from birth. He is now 70. He goes with me to a Bible study. He married and divorced twice. One woman was a Mormon, the other, a Pentecostal.

    The first marriage was very rocky. The Mormons were very strict. They didn't permit any "free or independent" thinking. My best friend left under a cloud of excommunication. His wife liked the people and was sad to go. They raised a son from birth.

    My friend and I have known each other for 32 years. I once studied the Catechism many years ago, when I was thinking of converting. I went to his church even before I knew him. We have talked much about our respective faiths. We will never switch.

    You may change your mind and embrace his faith. But after a time of marriage, you may want to start asking questions that may challenge his beliefs.

    My friend says that the Catholics do not like free thinkers. Everything was interpreted from the Bible and Tradition in the Church's History. The only things that remain doctrinally to be resolved are what my friend calls, "not chiefly essential to salvation." Catholics do not have to await their scholars to resolve matters like "limbo" to be saved. Other matters are studied and reviewed frequently; especially social and moral issues.

    Baptists believe you can never lose your salvation. Catholics teach you can. I once read a good article on marriage between these two type of believers. The conclusion: this very major difference can affect partners
    very negatively, by threats during fights in which the Catholic says their spouse is damnable and deserves to go to Hell. I think that would destroy you if you heard something like that.

    Aimee, I have said a lot of very hard things here. But God wants you to be deeply in love. That can only happen if you let Him pick your husband.
     
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    The time to edit my original post expired before I could make these major corrections:

    My friend says that the Catholics do not like free thinkers, like very dedicated and educated lay people who suggest different interpretations. Essential Doctrine was suggested by the Church Fathers based on interpretations of Scripture and Tradition over the Church's History.

    Some suggested different interprtetations. There was consensus among these ones who had begun and continued a humble education illuminated and advanced by the Holy Spirit. Fortunately, the Holy Spirit, the Scriptures, and Holy Tradition are still available to educate the faithful.

    Today's officially educated Catholics are suggesting that one doctrine needs a new interpretation. This is the doctine called "limbo;" a special place for the dead:

    A region of souls of people who die unbaptized but do not deserve the punishment of sinners. The souls of righteous people who died before the coming of Christ were kept in limbo until after the Resurrection.

     
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    Listen to Jesus Aimee. You cannot serve 2 masters.
     
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    First do not listen tot he priest, the Catholic church makes up its own rules divorced from scripture. Since you ex committed adultery at that moment you were free to divorce,. Further, since it was not you who filed, it shows your commitment to the marriage. Biblically you are free to remarry.

    With that said, I think you will find that you will have a hard time being married to a Catholic. Scripture says that we are to become one and you two will not be able to do that in a number of areas. As a pastor I would counsel against this marriage due to the disunity. What you do not want to do is to go from the frying pan into the fire. Stay single, learn to enjoy God and life in that capacity, God may at some time in the future send you someone with whom you can be completely united with rather than someone with whom you have these areas where you will be divided always. That would not be good.
     
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    Uh well first of all you would be committing adultery if you got married again with your husband still being alive. The Bible is quite clear on that.
    Secondly, why would you be unequally yoked with an unbeliever? If he is Catholic then he isn't even saved.
     
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    First, the very fact you are going on a message board to ask complete strangers tells me this is eating at your conscience.

    Secondly, Does Christ Have authority in your life? Then what do the Scriptures say? You are not simply uniting with a catholic, you are uniting with the powers of darkness. It's time to back up, see the entire forest. You are not just marrying a man associated with a religion, you are marrying all that comes with that religion, and all its heresy.

    What Fellowship does light have with darkness?

    Aimee, can you please share your testimony in Christ? Thanks :)
     
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    If you are serious about your walk with Christ, and do not agree with official catholic doctrine, marrying a catholic would be Unequally yoking the two of you, for you would be forced to raise any children as catholic, and basically you cannot really both be true to your beliefs...
     
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    How would you know if this man is saved or not... that is a call that’s nothing but presumptuous. I would seek out this guys heart for clues to his true self.
     
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    My wife was raised Dutch Reformed so she is comfortable in a Reformed church environment and she still likes churches that are reformed in doctrine and practice. I was a lapsed Catholic but so I wasn’t really religious I agreed to be accommodating to her selection of churches, which in the day was PCUSA. My family had to accept my selection of spouse cause this is who I was marrying (religion be hanged). Fast forward a few years, I agree to belong to the PCUSA and become a part of that church. Today I identify as a Radical Christian and attend a Baptist Church. She thinks Baptists are nuts and refuses to attend. Now that may change and that’s honestly in Gods hands... His grace will reveal itself, so I wouldn’t sweat the small stuff. If the guy is willing to attend with you then drag him into bible study because the more he is confronted with the Word, the more sensitive he could become ... who knows, he might become a better believer and follower of Christ than any of us.
     
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    IF both are committed to their positions, then one of them will have to change their viewpoint in order to be like minded and make it work out.
     
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    EWF,

    “How would you know if this man is saved or not...”

    Simple, he is a Catholic and incase you have forgotten what it is to be Catholic, let me remind you:

    · Prayers for the dead
    · Veneration of angels and dead saints
    · Worship of Mary
    · Prayers directed to Mary
    · Pagan doctrine of Purgatory
    · Pagan origin of the papacy
    · Pagan Rosary
    · The Inquisition
    · Sale of Indulgences
    · Dogma of Transubstantiation
    · Confession of sin to the priest
    · Bible forbidden to laymen

    And countless other heresies. In summary a Catholic is a pagan imitating a Christian. Nothing to presume because the above list is fact. No need to seek out his heart because the Holy Spirit would not let a saved person accept all the heresy and blasphemy that is at the core of Catholic doctrine.

    I shouldn’t have to remind you of the above wickedness and depravity of the Catholic church and the people associated with it, with you being “Baptist”. I haven't even mentioned the rampant pedophilia among the Catholic clergy and the millions of Catholics that have for decades looked the other way.

    With all that said, the worst offense of the Catholic church is the teaching of a works based salvation that is sending people to hell.

    John 10:27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:

    Catholics cannot hear the voice of Jesus and they definitely don’t follow him.
     
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    There are RC's are are truly born again -in spite of their commitment to the Church.
     
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    I’ve encountered rampant sin in baptist churches as well so the RCC has no corner on this. And as per my testimony, the Holy Spirit led me out of there but did it gradually, until I was prepared to see the light.

    I would never consider the RCC a place to call home, as you said there is much to question, much to detest, much to walk away from... and they themselves understand that. The generational connections are a hook that is hard to overcome...ie, if you come from an Italian, Polish, Irish family who identifies strongly with the RCC, that can be a problem. But the Holy Spirit will make short work of that or any other obstacle providing He wants you... so I would encourage this women to not give up on this guy providing he is willing to understand her faith walk. See the HS will use any means to convert the sinner (sickness, longing, loss etc) pain in general is what wakes us up to the truth. This guy could be on his journey and she could be his catalyst. But she will never know unless she tries.
     
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    While I’m sure there is much anecdotal evidence that Catholics are saved, there is little hard fact.

    By God’s standards, Catholics are destined for hell. Just like anyone who puts their faith in their works, will be judged by those works. You can pray to Mary and all the pagan idols of the Catholic church with utmost sincerity, but that will not save your soul.

    The Bible is clear and there is simply no excuse.
     
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