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Catholicized questions

Discussion in '2004 Archive' started by Askjo, Sep 22, 2004.

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  1. Askjo

    Askjo New Member

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    I studied on some issues about modern versions and the KJV. I would like to ask you questions.

    1. How many fundamental Baptist (or non-Baptist) colleges/seminaries openly state that some Catholicized new versions communicate God's Word more effectively than the KJV?

    2. How many fundamental Bible colleges can you name which do not use the Catholicized false Greek text in their Greek classes?

    Please answer them.
     
    #1 Askjo, Sep 22, 2004
  2. Ransom

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    I see the KJV-only buzzword du jour is now "Catholicized."

    Don't you already have enough words for "not the KJV"?

    [​IMG]
     
    #2 Ransom, Sep 22, 2004
  3. Bro Tony

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    :rolleyes: Please!!!!!

    Bro Tony
     
    #3 Bro Tony, Sep 22, 2004
  4. natters

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    I don't know. Does "Catholicized" include Erasmus' Textus Receptus and Byzantine manuscripts?
     
    #4 natters, Sep 22, 2004
  5. AVL1984

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    Woah, buddy...another hum-dinger of a slinger! Please, askjo, explain what you mean by "Catholic"? And what are the "Catholicized New Versions" you speak of???? :rolleyes:

    AVL1984
     
    #5 AVL1984, Sep 22, 2004
  6. HankD

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    Once again askjo has stumped us.

    Of course he might help us by defining the operative terms. For instance what is the criteria by which one can recognize a "Catholicized Bible" and/or a "false Greek text"?

    Now you can't say that it's the inclusion of the apocrypha because then the KJV is a "Catholicised" Bible. The First Editions included the apocrypha and (contrary to popular KJVO opinion) the AV IS copywrited in perpetuity by the Crown WITH the Apocrypha.

    HankD
     
    #6 HankD, Sep 22, 2004
  7. David J

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    Also can we factor in that Erasmus was a Roman Catholic?

    I smell some KJVO spin brewing in the background [​IMG]
     
    #7 David J, Sep 22, 2004
  8. Askjo

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    That is interesting.
     
    #8 Askjo, Sep 22, 2004
  9. Askjo

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    HankD, I talk about TODAY. That is what I asked.
     
    #9 Askjo, Sep 22, 2004
  10. Anti-Alexandrian

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    The KJB had the Apocrypha between the testaments;not included in the texts as scripture,as found in the "oldest and best."
    I think we have already cleared that nonsense up in times past(including the Erasmus thingy).Not to mention the KJB--or any of the MSS it came from(including the ones from Erasmus)--have been anathematized by the RCC(and scholars) for centuries now;I think what Askjo is trying to say is,the very same MSS used by the RCC and the JW's are the very same ones used to bring forth the NIV,NASB,RSV,etc.ad nauseam.

    And I agree,see Matthew 7:20.
     
    #10 Anti-Alexandrian, Sep 22, 2004
  11. David J

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    The KJB had the Apocrypha between the testaments;not included in the texts as scripture,as found in the "oldest and best." Anti-A

    One thing you did not mention:

    * References to the Books of the Apocrypha in the AV1611

    Daniel 8:25 references 2 Macc. 6:9

    Facts Anti-A facts....you might want to read that AV1611 before posting stuff about the Apocrypha and the KJV. Correct yourself please.

    Thank you
     
    #11 David J, Sep 22, 2004
  12. Dr. Bob

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    Houston, we have a problem . . .

    Catholicized Bible = any that have the Apocrypha
    Catholicized Greek Text = any eclectic blend of documents made by a Catholic priest
    Catholicized Greek Version = Byzantine Text are Eastern Catholic; Sinai/Vatican are Western Catholic. Trying to think were the Baptist Greek Version was . . .
    Catholic Bible = Vulgate
    New Catholic Version = Douay, AV1611, New Jerusalem, New Revised all are used by Catholics

    Might as well stop this thread right now and allow Askjo to reword his question intelligently, since the ambiguities will only lead to typical same-old, same-old.

    Try again, with straightforward and honest questions.
     
    #12 Dr. Bob, Sep 23, 2004
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