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Charges Dismissed

Discussion in 'Other Christian Denominations' started by lifeandliberty, Nov 5, 2005.

  1. lifeandliberty

    lifeandliberty New Member

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    Charges Dismissed
    November 05, 2005

    On November 4, Fred Neal had to appear in Richmond General District Court to defend himself against bogus disorderly conduct charges that were brought against him by abortion clinic employee, Officer Howard Noyes, on Sept. 20, 2005.

    This Police Officer has made it his cause to harrass, cite, and arrest law abiding Christians who dare to speak out on behalf of the murdered preborn and their Messiah.

    As expected the Prosecuting Attorney again asked that the charges be dismissed. Judge Cheek agreed and ordered it to be so.

    We thank our Heavenly Father for another court victory and intend to press on in this battle until babies are no longer "legally" murdered by their parents.

    Life and Liberty Ministries
     
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    How dare those demonstrators speak out against infanticide! Who do they think they are, speaking out against a womens right to slaughter her own son or daughter! How dare they speak out against state sponsored murder!

    How dare they be against CEC's?

    (Child Extermination Centers)

    Mike
     
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    I have always wondered why Christians say that Christians may be soldiers in war in order to defend others. Yet, none take up arms to defend these little ones. Smacks of hypocrisy to me.
     
  4. Johnv

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    To all who read this thread:

    Life and Liberty Ministries is not an organization that we should be lending an ear to. They are developeing a reputation for harrassment and incivility. Recently, they engaged in harrassment of college students and disruption of the learning environment, and were not forthcoming when asked about it here on this board.

    While we are all in agreement here on the topic of abortion, we should not associate ourselves with those who lack credibility. I believe L&L ministries to be dishonest and disingenuous in their representations. Even their website lacks objectivity (note that their "news release" contains the phrsase "bogus disorderly conduct charges"). We should refrain from aligning ourselves with a "ministry" that is so poor of a Christian witness, and should refrain from giving this group any more attention.

    http://www.baptistboard.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi/topic/1/3922.html?
     
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    The charges were bogus, that's why they were dropped. I see nothing wrong with this ministry. And this is great news.
     
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    Until you've walked a mile in their moccs...we've been there, done that too. Ours is still pending.

    America has become tolerant of everyone except Bible-believing Christians.
     
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    America has become tolerant of everyone except Bible-believing Christians

    Amen Granny, no one can say it better. I always wonder what happened to "the majority rules".

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    Tam
     
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    Unfortunatly in this world the majority does rule. Mt. 7:13-14.

    And we will be the few until someday when Jesus will rule on this Earth, and then we will rule. Until then, Satan's children rule.
     
  9. Johnv

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    In the case of L&L, I personally know the girls whom L&L harrassed. L&L blatantly harrassed the pro-life Christian college students, telling them they were going to hell. L&L denies it, of course.
     
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    So it's the college kids word against theirs, so you will call L&L liars and try to discredit them on every one of their threads. That sounds like the Christian thing to do. I have seen video tapes of some of the events that L&L and Michael Marcavage have participated it, and even though they were accused of causing a disturbance, the video tapes proved otherwise.
     
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    Admonishing someone in proper righteousness is appropriate for the Christian. I don't disagree with L&L's motive. I do, however, take serious issue with their methods.
     
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    You know what, Johnv...sometimes I think you take serious issue with anything that disagrees with your idea of right, lol.

    We have several towns that we go to and in every single one of them, the cops and so-called christians have harassed us. Our preachers have been arrested, the women (including myself) and children have been threatened, shoved, kicked, spit upon, slapped, pushed down on the cement and even more serious - projectiles.

    It's the christians with the "fish symbol" who cuss us out the most and others delight in showing us the number of their IQ with their middle finger.

    Thank the LORD for video footage, which does not lie. Allow me to repeat it again - America has become tolerant of everyone EXCEPT Bible-believing Christians!
     
  13. Johnv

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    The problem is that you think everyone who is not in agreement with you is not a bible believing Christian. Look at your own tone. It's the bible-believing Christian who are holding groups like you accountable. Where is the problem with that? I'm not saying that you going through what you've gone through is warranted, but you have somewhere along the line gotten this idea that your actions annd attitude are above reproach. Do you truly think that your own actions in ministry have never been suspect? On another thread, you implied that contrails in the sky was evidence that the government was spying on you.

    If what I said about L&L at W&M college was correct and accurate, would you agree that L&L should be admonished? No. You will not. You will bend over backwards to excuse their behavior. I will not. All Christians need to be above reproach, and we Christians need to hold ourselves accountable. There seems to be this idea that when it comes to abortion demonstrations, it's all of a sudden okay for Christians to remain above reproach.
     
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    Please - show me this. What I have said before is that CHEMtrails are making us sick and/or is messing with the weather.
     
  15. Johnv

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    I revise my statement: On another thread, you said that contrails in the sky, which you alleged were chemtrails, was evidence that the government was targeting you, either to make you sick or mess with the weather.
     
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    The perpetual spin doctor.
     
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    I can understand anyone standing for what they think is right, but why put the children in harms way.

    I would not want my children or grandchildren threatened, shoved, kicked, spit upon, slapped, pushed down on the cement.
     
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    It happens everyday in the government schools.
     
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    Parents and grandparents involvement in the public schools can help PREVENT placing children in harms way while parents and grandparents involvement in street demonstrations may CAUSE children to be placed in harms way.
     
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    Why in the world would the government want to make EVERYBODY sick!! Surely the Government would like its own kids!!

    There is no limit to paranoia.
     
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