By the by, the idea of integrating children into the church’s gathered services, while probably are minority view in the U.S., is not just a weird, random, and rare viewpoint held quirky quacks such as Steve Anderson and I. There is an entire national organization -- with a nice web site, and having members who look more normal than most of us. Their purpose includes restoring "the biblical pattern of age integrated worship, discipleship and evangelism."
I don't know any church that keeps kids out of church to 19 years old.
In our church we have nursery for the littles if you want to use it, Sunday school from after worship to the end of the service (they basically miss the song before the message and the message) from ages 3-5th grade.
Beyond that, there is Sunday school for the kids but they have to attend the opposite service (attend the full 9 am service to go to the Sunday school in the 10:45 service or visa versa).
There is also Sunday school for the deaf (they have their own church service at 11 am) and for those with cognitive disabilities (we have a great ministry to the "able disabled" and the county will transport anyone who wants to come - most come from group homes).
All 4 of my kids have either been through youth group or are currently in there.
My two older girls continue in ministry in various capacities since they left youth group, my son is very involved in small group ministry in the youth group and he assists in the junior high youth group as a leader and my youngest daughter teaches Pioneer Girls, a special dance program that has a LOT of mentoring and ministry involved and its been said that our small church campus is pretty much run by my family (hubby preaches, I do the computer visuals, oldest teaches Sunday school and is on the greeting team, second daughter is on the worship team, son runs sound and my youngest makes the coffee (most important job) and helps in the nursery when needed.
I don't think that Sunday school and youth group is the problem.
That is our service except add in 4.5 - 3 songs (we respond to what we hear in the Word of God with song - and it is really SO much more meaningful after hearing the message to really get into worship.)
You're wrong. He is very Biblical. You just prefer to hear lies when all he offers in Biblical truth. You go ahead and make statements and rail with not proof.
He is SO not Biblical at all.
I read and know the Scriptures and he twists the Word of God to fit his own agenda.
He is dangerous to the church and to his family and community.
I don't think so.
If he was, he would have called me a Jezebel again by now.
If you think I am aligned with the National Center for Family-Integrated Churches because I linked to their site, you have misinterpreted my post. I don't recall having ever heard of them before yesterday. Just because some people come to the same conclusions on certain issues doesn't suggest alignment. With whom are you aligned?
[And the comment about "a weird, random, and rare viewpoint held quirky quacks such as Steve Anderson and I" was intended to be humor, which must not have been apparent in electronic conversation.]
Due to factors like the influence of British Plymouth Brethren and the danger of arrest for preachers, EC-B churches keep as deep a bench of preachers as possible. So, the question is not of technical qualification, it's how good is your changeup.
No I'm not Reverend Mitchell. But then again if you are so simplistic to think that if anyone agrees with someone else, they are that person, then I don't think that answer will satisfy you.
Steven Anderson has never denied the holocaust, just the way people claim it went down. Its ok they keep lowering the number of Jews killed...but don't let me and facts get in the way of your agenda.
I went to a IFB (BBF) KJO church conference about a year ago.
They were joking about verses -such as Numbers 22:32 -
and they said that since it is in the KJV -
it is okay to used that kind of language.