Christ Is Not A Goat-Herder

Christ reserved His harshest criticisms for those expounding their knowledge without understanding.

Please prove your assertion concerning the scripture referenced.

 

What is the assertion? What would a 'proof' look like? If you really mean: "You can't possibly prove that to me." please post: ""You can't possibey prove that to me!" Thank you for your help.


For example. I believe that NIV is a part of ALL SCRIPTURE.

So this verse:

2 Ti 3:16-17(KJV1611 Edition):
All Scripture is giuen by inspiration of God, & is profitable for doctrine, for reproofe, for correction, for instrution in righteousnesse,
17 That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished vnto all good workes.

Means:

The NIV is giuen by inspiration of God, & is profitable for doctrine, for reproofe, for correction, for instrution in righteousnesse,
17 That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished vnto all good workes.

To me this is an adequate form of a proof. This proves that the NIV was inspired by God & is profitable. Other people may have other forms of proof. Some people don't believe the NIV so they won't 'buy into' my proof. That is why I ask. Saint Webdog* the Great has made I statement with which I agree and can prove.

* Footnote:
'Webdog' backwards is 'god bew'

 

You are not Christ.

 

Anybody mind if I break out in a great big yodel?

 

Works for me:wavey:

Can you yodel different styles? Bulgarian? Swiss? Bavarian? Arkansaw? Peruvian? Hungarian? Finnish?

 

European: Little -old-laDY-whooo.

Peruvian: Chiqita-abuelita-quien.

Arkansaw: Lil' ole lady, Ooo.

Finnish: Ok. I'm finnished

 

I am a "little Christ"...

 

Thanks for the completely irrelevant post - to draw the reader's attention back to the original discussion:

Quote:
Originally Posted by webdog
...or John 10 needs to be read in light of Matthew 15. Matthew tells us who the sheep are...John expands that there are others, but he does NOT state they are gentiles. That's eisegesis.


webdog - you are moving into silliness, now. Please go read the true exegetes before you make yourself look more foolish.

Quote:
Originally Posted by John Calvin
16. And I have other sheep. Though some refer this indiscriminately to all, both Jews and Gentiles, who were not yet disciples of Christ, yet I have no doubt that he had in his eye the calling of the Gentiles. For he gives the appellation fold to the assemblage of the ancient people, by which they were separated from the other nations of the world, and united into one body as the heritage of God. The Jews had been adopted by God in such a manner, that he surrounded them with certain enclosures, which consisted of rites and ceremonies, that they might not be confounded with unbelievers, though the door of the fold was the gracious covenant of eternal life confirmed in Christ. For this reason he calls those sheep which had not the same mark, but belonged to a different class, other sheep. In short, the meaning is, that the pastoral office of Christ is not confined within the limits of Judea, but is far more extensive.



From here

to which webdog replied:

I simply asked him to back up his statement with proof.

 

Goats are leading poor sheep to destruction and Israel is the sheep who have gone astray. Gentiles are as the aliens living among the Jews who were included with them when they heard the Gospel of their salvation having believed and circumcised the males. The circumcision of today is that of the heart, that Jesus does when we turn to Him. As a gentile I was a dog begging at the master table and Jesus didn't turn me away.

We gentiles are included with the believing Jews when we heard the Gospel of our salvation having believed.

We all have become one in Christ.

I do not pretend to be nobody. I'm still a dog begging at the masters table, waiting on my master return.

We are to love one another as Christ loved us and be one as Christ prayed us to be.

 

Look up the Judas Goat

 

Some are sheep, some of us are dogs, some are goats leading sheep who have gone astray to the pit of destruction.

These are hyperbole's right that teach us a lesson, we would know more of what He was saying if we lived during that time I am saying what goats was used for at that time, and what Israel teacher who had the key to knowledge was doing hidering those who were entering in which they themselves have not entered

 

I remember the thread well. I remember that you and I tried without success to get Psalms 109:31 to back up from the bible the claims he made, that 1. "goat" in scripture means a false teacher, and 2. that everyone is a sheep until Christ comes in judgment.

I couldn't understand his posts, and he probably couldn't understand mine. :laugh:

But all that led me to wrongly think that it was his thread, when in fact it was yours.

 

I really trying to find what the goats was and seeing how Jesus treated the Israel teaching and finding out what goats were used for at the time, it was an easy conclusion.

Luke 11:
52 “Woe to you experts in the law, because you have taken away the key to knowledge. You yourselves have not entered, and you have hindered those who were entering.”

It is a hyperbole and it is what I learned from it.

 

24 Then the Jews surrounded Him and said to Him, "How long do You keep us in doubt? If You are the Christ, tell us plainly." 25 Jesus answered them, "I told you, and you do not believe. The works that I do in My Father’s name, they bear witness of Me. 26 But you do not believe, because you are not of My sheep, as I said to you. 27 My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me. 28 And I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; neither shall anyone snatch them out of My hand. 29 My Father, who has given them to Me, is greater than all; and no one is able to snatch them out of My Father’s hand."


I praise God it is also for dogs like me who beg at the masters table. I do not diaagree with the elect nor those who are being included

 

I can confirm that. I have not PM-ed Rippon at all.