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Christian rights in jeopardy.

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by Glenda, Feb 8, 2006.

  1. Glenda

    Glenda New Member

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    I am often told that Christians living in the United States face no persecution. Seems to me that there are strong movements that want to take away the rights of Christians while adding to the rights of others. What Christian rights do you see as being in jeopardy?
     
  2. billwald

    billwald New Member

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    Christians only have obligations.
     
  3. elijah_lives

    elijah_lives New Member

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    1) The right to verbally pray in public venues, particularly in areas of public life dominated by secular-progressives and seen by them as necessary to control or influence the thoughts/minds of current and future generations. (i.e., schools, courts, and mass media).

    2) The forced recognition of sexual perversion through use of the courts to legalize these abominations, thereby directly attacking the first sacred institution instituted by God (marriage).

    3) The right to govern ourselves (by using unelected courts to overthrow the wishes of the people as expressed at the ballot box). Witness their attempt to declare Nebraska's constitutional amendment banning same-sex marriage as itself unconstitutional, thereby derailing the express wishes of the people.

    4) Monopolizing educational institutions to reduce and eliminate the influence of Christianity on students.

    5) Muzzling the free speech rights of Christians through attempts to make so-called hate speech, which they define, criminal behaviour.

    6) Attempts to divide the Christian community itself, making it less effective. Notice all of the church and denominational splits caused by advancing their agendas through churches themselves.

    7) Attempts to muzzle the gospel message itself. Some, as in parts of Europe, would restrict the gospel to behind closed church doors.

    Some of the readers here might argue that these aren't exactly rights I've mentioned, but our rights are behind them. Socialistic and anti-God forces are patient, relentless, and fungible (we block them in one area, and they just move on to another area, like the finger in the dike story).
    That should alarm us.
     
  4. Johnv

    Johnv New Member

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    This a real toughie.

    Because the US has been a majority Christian culture since, and prior to, its inception, that society has enjoyed many privileges that favor people of or similar to Christian faiths. Over time we have seen many of these privileges diminish.

    But privileges are not rights. Many of us, myself included, often confuse the privileges we've enjoyed, with constitutional rights. I see tv preachers go on about the restriction of certain "rights", which are actually privileges. We must truly and properly discern between a right and a privilege, lest those things that are truly rights be trampled upon.
     
  5. carpro

    carpro Well-Known Member
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    Glenda, there is not much doubt that Christains are being persecuted in America in many ways.

    But not much at all in a physical, life threatening sense like in other places around the world.

    I thank that is what is meant by the statement you quote.

    We have it pretty good compared to, say, Christians in Iran or Malaysia.
     
  6. fromtheright

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    billwald,

    Christians only have obligations.

    But do Christian citizens have rights? Or does the First Amendment apply only for other religions? If Christians don't have rights, should we vote? Why? Do Christians have the right to protection against force and fraud from others, i.e., should we not expect government to fulfill its responsibilities to Christians as citizens?
     
  7. Debby in Philly

    Debby in Philly Active Member

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    To these I would add the government sponsorship of encouraging the spread is Islam by seeing to it that we bend over backwards to "not offend" and to "encourage dialogue."
     
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