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Christians can miss the kingdom and/or be punished at Christ's return

Discussion in 'Baptist History' started by Bartholomew, Mar 2, 2003.

  1. Bartholomew

    Bartholomew New Member

    Feb 18, 2002
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    This is a supplamentary post to the one in the theology and bible study section, at:


    (please read that to understand what I am going on about!) It is intended just to show that the position I advocated there is not new. What follows is a list of some premillennialists who, at least at some point during their lives, believed that Christians could miss the kingdom and/or be punished at the judgement seat of Christ (although there are obviously differences between them over some details - even important details). The list is taken from the book, "The Rod: Will God Spare it?" by pastor Joey Faust, and the RH numbers refer to page numbers in that book. Finally, I must also point out that not all these people are were baptists; although many of them were. I hope it is still OK for me to post this? Thank you.

    A Sample of Premillennialists Who Believed in Kingdom Exclusion and/or Corporal Chastisement at the Judgment Seat of Christ:

    Watchman Nee (1903-1972): 305
    A. Edwin Wilson (1901-1986): 306
    Albert George Tilney (1891-1976): 307
    Oswald Jeffrey Smith (1889-1986): 308
    Robert Thomas Ketcham (1889-1978): 310
    Charles G.A. Gibson-Smith (1882-1949): 311
    Daniel Paul Rader (1878-1938): 312
    William Frederick Roadhouse (1875-1951): 313
    George Henry Lang (1874-1958): 315
    Robert Edward Neighbour (1872-1945): 316
    Samuel Fennell Hurnard (1871-1949): 320
    David Morrieson Panton (1870-1955): 320
    William Powell Clark (1864-1953): 324
    Frank Victor Mildred: 325
    Mary Ardine: 325
    Jesse Sayer: 326
    H. S. Gallimore: 326
    William Henry Griffith Thomas (1861-1924): 326
    Jessie Penn-Lewis (1861-1927): 328
    Charles Spelman Utting (1859-1951): 328
    Philip Mauro (1859-1952): 329
    Thomas Mitchell Chalmers (1858-1937): 331
    Stephen Speers Craig (1855-1936?): 331
    Lt. Col. George Frederick Poynder (1851-1942): 333
    Dr. Alfred Taylor Schofield (1846-1929): 334
    Henry William Fry: 336
    Isaac Massey Haldeman (1845-1933): 337
    Alexander Patterson (1844-1912): 338
    Siegfried Abraham Goebel (b.1844): 339
    Lt. Col. Joseph Sladen (1841-1930): 339
    George Hawkins Pember (1837-1910): 341
    J. Hudson Taylor (1832-1905): 343
    Elijah Richardson Craven (1824-1908): 344
    Joseph Augustus Seiss (1823-1904): 345
    James Robinson Graves (1820-1893): 347
    Johannes Van Oosterzee (1817-1882): 349
    Robert Govett (1813-1901): 350
    Philip Henry Gosse (1810-1888): 354
    Robert Cleaver Chapman (1803-1902): 355
    William Nathaniel Tilson Marsh: 357
    William Burgh (1800-1866): 358
    Theodosia A. Powerscourt (1800-1836): 360
    Anthony Norris Groves (1795-1853): 364
    Joshua William Brooks (1790-1882): 366
    Isaac Taylor (1759-1829): 367
    John Fletcher (1729-1785): 369
    Thomas Newton (1703-1784): 370
    Charles Daubuz (1670-1740): 370
    Robert Fleming, Jr. (1660-1716): 371
    Thomas Burnett (1635-1715): 372
    Henry More (1614-1687): 373
    Johann H. Alsted (1568-1638): 374
    Joseph Mede (1586-1638): 375
    James Usher (1580-1656): 377
    William Twiss (1575-1649): 378
    John Piscator (1546-1625): 378
    Tertullian (160-240): 379
    Polycarp (69-155): 379
    Testimonies Concerning the Early Martyrs 381
  2. tyndale1946

    tyndale1946 Well-Known Member
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    Aug 30, 2001
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    Since a subject related to this was posted in the theology forum... I suggest as the co moderator of this forum you move this also to the theology forum... Since there are all points of Eschatology and Baptist that believe various ones as there are pre... post... dispys... amils and preterist... I am closing this post now!... I don't feel this falls under Baptist History and will start disagreements among brethren that it was never intended to do!... This is the quiet portion of the BB and there is christian civility and brotherhood here and I feel this post will disrupt that!... If you feel I am in error contact rlvaughn the other moderator he may reopen it... I am closing it!... Brother Glen Co Moderator Of The Baptist History Forum

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