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Christians in Politics pt 2

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by JonC, Mar 3, 2021.

  1. JonC

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    No, you have not shown anything. You offered an unsubstantiated opinion to dispute my interpretation of Scripture that we are not to be involved with these worldly powers.
     
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    I'll borrow from Mr. Webster - "a philosophy calling for lower taxes, limited government regulation of business and investing, a strong national defense, and individual financial responsibility for personal needs "
     
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    Then neither democrats or republicans represent that definition. So where then do you find that elusive stance. Perhaps the modern Wig party!
     
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    The GOP and the Conservative party both represent that definition. They may not be good at it, but that is a part of their platform (until recently....with COVID Republicans became Democrats fiscally, but that was just to get votes).
     
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    I live in a Republican county... every year my taxes go up, no matter who the government is. And I’ve called this place my home, off and on, for 64 years

    Now if the money was used to make the community better IE pave roads, better infrastructure, etc then I would be fine with it but that isn’t the case. In fact, it’s worse than I’ve ever seen it. And we are just getting off 8 years of a GOP government. So maybe they talk the talk but they sure as hell don’t walk the walk.:Mad
     
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    Yes. That is politics. Leave the gun, take the cannoli.
     
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    At least in that situation you get a New Yok cannoli (crispy shell with regatta filling, powered sugar & chocolate chips sprinkled in). God, if I move outa dis area, I will neva get that again, no moore :Cry
     
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    I have shown how ridiculous your position is.

    Your interpretation of Scripture? What Scripture? Concerning this thread, all three pages, you have not cited one Scripture.

    Quantrill
     
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    How is that against a Christian serving in politics?

    Quantrill
     
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    I personally haven’t found one yet... if you have, let me know.
     
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    :Rolleyes
     
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    :Laugh... my uncle was a politician and he used his position to control situations and manipulate. He was able to get better jobs for himself and his kids, influence school boards, yada yada. When I approached him about going into politics because they wanted to run me for office he forbade me from doing it. ;)
     
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    It seems we are not yet on the same page here, which is leading to completely different understandings.

    First, no, those quotes from extrabiblical sources are not from the earliest church. The earliest church is what we read of in the NT, aka the apostolic church.

    Second, the position that goes too far is the refusal of baptism to a new believer, for which there is zero biblical support in this context.

    Ethiopian Eunuch—baptized.
    Philippian jailer—baptized, along with his household.
    Centurion Cornelius—baptized, along with his household.

    The last was even specially chosen by God as a non-Jewish convert. The first was also specially selected by the Holy Spirit. Zero indication that any should resign their government posts.

    Refusal of baptism in this context is going too far, way too far. It has zero biblical support, and in fact goes against the known practice of the apostolic church.
     
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    For me, and for others who see this issue as I do!
     
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    True, but we did confront the major evil of the time, Nazism, correct?
     
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    God used soldiers and government and police to keep the peace and make sure judgement is performed out, did he suddenly change His thinking on these issues now?
     
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    We are still waiting to see scriptures from you though that shows to us a Christian forbidden to run for office, to be a cop/soldier, or to not be able to be Christian in the arts!
     
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    The issue is an argument from silence. We do not know.

    What we can do is read passages about becoming entangled, about the nature of the world, about the purpose of redemption, and about the nature of the kingdom of God.

    Then we decide for ourselves where we stand.
     
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