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Clinton scandal: was town hall a fraud?

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by Ivon Denosovich, Nov 13, 2007.

  1. Ivon Denosovich

    Ivon Denosovich New Member

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    Story here.

    Let's assume (operative word being: assume) she's guilty. 1) Would the general public be outraged? 2) Would Obama replace her as the frontrunner?
     
  2. SeekingHisTruth

    SeekingHisTruth New Member

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    Why would they be outraged at that when they weren't outraged that Clinton committed adultery in the White House and many other things that have gone on mysteriously with the Clintons.

    Looks like a two-person race to me, but who knows. I heard recently that Kerry was in fifth in most polls at this time. However I don't know how well we can compare this race with any other before just because of the timing the candidates started "campaigning."
     
  3. saturneptune

    saturneptune New Member

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    I think two more pointed questions would be:
    1. Why would anyone expect anything different from Hillary?
    2. What difference does it make which of the Democrats get the nomination?
     
  4. carpro

    carpro Well-Known Member

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    Outraged?

    I don't think so considering the low esteem most politicians are held in.

    But it's still the type of behavior the public needs to know about. Kinda underhanded and dishonest and manipulative, among other things.
     
  5. TomVols

    TomVols New Member

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    I would venture that every candidate has plants. This same charge has been levied against Clinton, Rudy, Paul, and I'm sure every campaign has done it to some extent.
     
  6. Scarlett O.

    Scarlett O. Well-Known Member

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    That's exactly what I was thinking.

    Not that it makes it alright. It's still absurd. Dishonest. More like scripted reality-TV (which is most unrealistic) than true and honest sharing of ideas.

    But Hillary surely isn't the inventor of this crooked wheel.
     
  7. KenH

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    Reminds me of President Bush from a story in 2005:

    "John Fortier, a political analyst with the American Enterprise Institute, said he's heard complaints about ticket-holder screening and "stacking the deck" in favor of filling meetings with the president's supporters, but none of it is new.

    Past presidents have often packed houses with supporters, especially when they are on campaigns to advance new policy initiatives.

    It's all part of the "permanent campaign," Fortier said, adding that Bush did much the same thing before his tax cuts passed Congress during his first term.

    “I don’t know if it is working, but I don’t fault it too much that these rallies aren’t open forums for debate."

    - rest at www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,153720,00.html
     
  8. JustChristian

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    I believe you're referring to the candidates husband when you're talking about adultry in the White House. Correct? Let's talk about Laura Bush's murder in an automobile "accident." Why wasn't that ever brought forward as pertinent to her husband's campaigns?
     
  9. Baptist in Richmond

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    I was just wondering when this topic would be introduced onto the BaptistBoard.

    Rush and Sean certainly are devoting a great deal of airtime to this topic. Here in Richmond, we don't get Sean Hannity live, so he was on the air talking about this again tonight as I was driving home from work.

    I am not a big fan of Hillary, but if this is so bad, what about the whole debacle surrounding Jeff Gannon, that supposed journalist for Talon News. If it's bad to have a question planted, then what about a reporter that is planted? Have we all forgotten about him?

    Would that be considered "Kinda underhanded and dishonest and manipulative?"
     
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  10. carpro

    carpro Well-Known Member

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    Probably.

    But not every candidate threatens news organizations and their reporters prior to a debate as Clinton does .
     
  11. SeekingHisTruth

    SeekingHisTruth New Member

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    Yes I was, but you are taking my comments out of context by your next statement and question.

    My statement about Clinton's adultery was not made in regard to "campaigning", but was made to show there was a lack of outrage to his actions from the general public. And if that is so, and it is, then why would be expect outrage for something like planting a question.

    As far as what you are talking about I have never heard of this. And personally no I don't think it should have anything to do with a campaign as she is not the one running. Neither do I think Clinton's affair(s) should be a part of the campaign, because he's not running. Doesn't mean they won't, but they shouldn't be IMO.

    If she decides to put him into some capacity where he has to gain support of congress then I would think that would be a fair place for his actions to be brought forth.
     
  12. SeekingHisTruth

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    If it's so okay then why hide it? Why not admit to it? Why not just have a "press conference" where you make statements instead of entertain questions.

    It's dishonest at best.
     
  13. 2 Timothy2:1-4

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    Also Rush played the interview with the girl who was picked to ask the question. She said that she was told that Hillary would know who to pick. She also stated when she raised her hand Hillary picked her out of about 200 other people. And yet Hillary denies knowing anything about it prior to the meeting. Clearly she is lieing. As usual Hillariy's response is what really makes it an issue.
     
  14. carpro

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    Of course Hillary is lying.

    Planting a question couldn't work any other way.
     
  15. 2 Timothy2:1-4

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    My point is that this isn't just about a planted question, but it is also about her truthfulness on the matter.
     
  16. hillclimber1

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    How can you connect murder, and accident, as you have here?
     
  17. saturneptune

    saturneptune New Member

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    Great source of information. Can you write a book?
     
  18. 2 Timothy2:1-4

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    Naa I am not going to bite on the attacks anymore.
     
  19. saturneptune

    saturneptune New Member

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    That is because you are too busy planting them.
     
  20. tinytim

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    [hi-jack alert]



    I didn't want to really address what you said in your post, but your signature line:

    "In the Beginning, all America was Virginia."
    - William Byrd II

    And I would add, "Then in 1863 God gave the smart ones, West Virginia" - Tinytim

    :laugh: :laugh:

    [/hi-jack alert]
     
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