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Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by 2 Timothy2:1-4, Aug 20, 2007.

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  1. 2 Timothy2:1-4

    2 Timothy2:1-4 New Member

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    Do you see these goals being worked toward in this country?



    (i) Limitation of private property through progressive taxation, heavy inheritance taxes, abolition of inheritance through collateral lines (brothers, nephews, etc.) forced loans, etc.
    (ii) Gradual expropriation of landowners, industrialists, railroad magnates and shipowners, partly through competition by state industry, partly directly through compensation in the form of bonds.
    (iii) Confiscation of the possessions of all emigrants and rebels against the majority of the people.
    (iv) Organization of labor or employment of proletarians on publicly owned land, in factories and workshops, with competition among the workers being abolished and with the factory owners, in so far as they still exist, being obliged to pay the same high wages as those paid by the state.
    (v) An equal obligation on all members of society to work until such time as private property has been completely abolished. Formation of industrial armies, especially for agriculture.
    (vi) Centralization of money and credit in the hands of the state through a national bank with state capital, and the suppression of all private banks and bankers.
    (vii) Increase in the number of national factories, workshops, railroads, ships; bringing new lands into cultivation and improvement of land already under cultivation – all in proportion to the growth of the capital and labor force at the disposal of the nation.
    (viii) Education of all children, from the moment they can leave their mother’s care, in national establishments at national cost. Education and production together.
    (ix) Construction, on public lands, of great palaces as communal dwellings for associated groups of citizens engaged in both industry and agriculture and combining in their way of life the advantages of urban and rural conditions while avoiding the one-sidedness and drawbacks of each.
    (x) Destruction of all unhealthy and jerry-built dwellings in urban districts.
    (xi) Equal inheritance rights for children born in and out of wedlock.
    (xii) Concentration of all means of transportation in the hands of the nation.


    http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1847/11/prin-com.htm
     
    #1 2 Timothy2:1-4, Aug 20, 2007
  2. Rufus_1611

    Rufus_1611 New Member

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    Absolutely I do.

    Do you see that in order for these goals to be worked on in this country, it would require a conspiracy?
     
    #2 Rufus_1611, Aug 20, 2007
  3. hillclimber1

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    Gee, by the looks of this, the Democrat party is conspiratorial.
     
    #3 hillclimber1, Aug 21, 2007
  4. Rufus_1611

    Rufus_1611 New Member

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    Not really. They're far more open about their agenda...it's the other party that plays pretend all the time.
     
    #4 Rufus_1611, Aug 21, 2007
  5. hillclimber1

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    Yeah, that's funny Rufus.
    I was referring to the agenda sought in the OP posted by Tim. All those impositions seem to be Democrat tenets.
     
    #5 hillclimber1, Aug 21, 2007
  6. ByGracethroughFaith

    ByGracethroughFaith New Member

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    Yup.

    Here are a few more to add:

    Communist Goals
    http://neprimer.com/1963ComGoals.htm
    http://www.tysknews.com/Depts/New_World_Order/comgoals.htm

    Hegelian dialectic
    http://www.calvertonschool.org/waldspurger/pages/hegelian_dialectic.htm

    Warning to the Western World- Aleksandr I.Solzhenitsyn
    http://www.lib.ru/PROZA/SOLZHENICYN/s_word_engl.txt

    The Definition of a Soviet:

    • A soviet is a system of councils that report to an apex council and implement a predetermined outcome, often by consensus, affecting a region or neighborhood.
    • Members of a soviet council are chosen by virtue of their willingness to comply with that outcome and their one-mindedness with the group
    • Soviets are the operating mechanism of a government-controlled economy, whether it be socialism or government-corporate ("public-private") partnerships


    BGTF
     
    #6 ByGracethroughFaith, Aug 21, 2007
  7. billwald

    billwald New Member

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    Communism is a dead issue. what you see is the means how the hegemony of big business and old money will run the world.
     
    #7 billwald, Aug 22, 2007
  8. Baptist in Richmond

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    Yet another discussion about communism.....
     
    #8 Baptist in Richmond, Aug 22, 2007
  9. Magnetic Poles

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    Don't tell 'em that red baiting is so 1950s!
     
    #9 Magnetic Poles, Aug 22, 2007
  10. pinoybaptist

    pinoybaptist Active Member
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    Faith:
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    hehehe,

    I'm thinking of changing my public name on BB to pinoymakarti, wot ?
     
    #10 pinoybaptist, Aug 22, 2007
  11. betterthanideserve

    betterthanideserve New Member

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    NEWS FLASH!
    So is the republican party! a conspiracy is defined as when two or more people conspire to perform an illigal act......
    its funny that they would have us believe that darwins theory of evolution is truth,but conspiracy fact is THEORY?
    Do the study for yourself do not take anything I say as fact,but research it for yourself,and if you have the mental courage, draw your own conclusions.....Good place to start? "The protocols of the learned elders of zion" a book written in the 19th century first published in 1906,many have tried to refute it (because satan desires that truth remain hidden) you will see that what we are experiencing now was planned a very very,very long time ago!


    May God bless you as you study his word, The Bible, as well as historical documentation and other books.:praying:
     
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  12. betterthanideserve

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    communism?


    Modern day communism is now neo-con-unism..........:tonofbricks:
     
    #12 betterthanideserve, Aug 23, 2007
  13. hillclimber1

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    Don't know where to start on this one........maybe define "illigal"(sic)
    Do you see any differences in political procedures, goals and stated tenets between the 2 parties?
     
    #13 hillclimber1, Aug 23, 2007
  14. hillclimber1

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    Just what is this? Man oh man. Your content is barbed, and your closing is this?
    What about newspapers and magazines? Are you slighting me?
     
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  15. betterthanideserve

    betterthanideserve New Member

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    Pardon me:praying: illegal:tear:
     
    #15 betterthanideserve, Aug 23, 2007
  16. betterthanideserve

    betterthanideserve New Member

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    Not slighting you in any way,only trying to determine where your coming from,please don't take it personal.:thumbs:
     
    #16 betterthanideserve, Aug 23, 2007
  17. hillclimber1

    hillclimber1 Active Member
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    OK, thank you.
    I think you meant "personally".
     
    #17 hillclimber1, Aug 23, 2007
  18. betterthanideserve

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    UH HUH!:applause:
     
    #18 betterthanideserve, Aug 23, 2007
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