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Communist Goals Done!

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by 2 Timothy2:1-4, Jul 11, 2007.

  1. Filmproducer

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    Hmmm... are you even talking about the same thing as goal number 1 and 2 then? I think not. BTW, what exactly do you think we should do about Kim Jong-il? Is it really prudent to invade N. Korea and embed ourselves in another war? Why stop with N. Korea there's also Iran. Oh, and let's not forget the continual conflict over the Kashmir region by the Pakistani's and India. The threat of nuclear war is always close to the surface in that region. It's one thing to talk the talk, but are you really willing to proceed with a nuclear war? Just what exactly do you think should be done about nuclear proliferation? Personally I am of the belief that nuclear war must be avoided at all costs. Guess that makes me a communist....

    1. Communist nations are not sovereign? How so?

    2. What exactly about the US's veto power in the UN security council is overriding our national sovereignty? Last time I checked the UN still does not have any binding enforcement powers over that of any sovereign nation, the US especially.
     
  2. exscentric

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    "It's quite possible that I'm in the fog and misunderstood the intent of your statement. Were you agreeing or disagreeing with Goldwater?"

    Maybe I'm speaking of ancient history :laugh: The book was "NONE DARE CALL IT TREASON" which documented communists in our country. The Rep. party put them out by the truckloads.
     
  3. Baptist in Richmond

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    This wasn't my argument to diminish. I am not the one who put this list and started this discussion. This statement sounds familiar, wonder where I have heard it prior to your post.......

    Now, please enlighten us as to my argument, and how I am intending to diminish it.

    This sounds like something that I hear from all the chickenhawks. What exactly is the OTHER choice if this is not an either/or scenario? In other words, what is the other option/options? We can either coexist or engage in atomic war. As for giving in to terrorists and thugs, when have we given in to them? Take your example, North Korea, and show us where we gave in to them.

    So my choices are:

    1. Coexistence
    2. Atomic War
    3. ??

    Perhaps if you could give me the third choice, and the fourth (if applicable) I could choose from them rather than a simple either/or scenario.

    Exactly who are these communists that are out to get us? Who are they?
     
  4. 2 Timothy2:1-4

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    Yea, I have know idea. I suppose only you and God know.

    I never said you intended such.

    So Kim whatshisface is able to extort financial support from the Us tax payers or he will make bombs and blow people up. So we give him what he wants to "coexist". What folks like you fail to admit is their are evil people in the world that cannot be reasoned with. Not everyone wants to be reasonable. We should stop all funding to a failed communist society and if that yahoo wants to throw bombs then we can deal with that.

    well there is one on this board for starters. The Clintons, Kennedys, Pelosi etc. The ACLU, the NEA, most union and AFLCIO leaders.
     
  5. 2 Timothy2:1-4

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    I noticed that only points 1&2 were addressed. the post was meant to be taken as a whole. I guess the rest is to difficult to defend. And we do not need to give in the the Korean extortion that is currently going on. Another spinless moment for the President.



    I never said such

    I never mentioned the security council. It may not but that doesnt mean it isnt trying for it. Maybe you should take a look at the UN's "Charter For Global Democracy".


    Kens buddy old ronnie sees that the UN is working to override the US soveriegnty: http://www.house.gov/paul/congrec/congrec2003/cr042903.htm

    If I thought he could actually accomplish this I would vote for him in a New York second.
     
  6. Baptist in Richmond

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    Uh.... yeah.... okay..... WHAT??

    Then by all means enlighten us with the true meaning of the statment I referenced. If that was not your intent, then what in the world did it mean?

    Um, you didn't give me any other alternatives. This is simply a longer-winded reiteration of what you wrote before. Nobody is disputing that there are bad people in the world. The question that I asked (and you didn't answer) is what are the other alternatives to either coexisting or atomic war. The "evil people" statement was a nice touch, though: I have heard that before from a certain radio personality.

    Perhaps you could enlighten us as to the identity of that person on this board.
    As for the claim that "the Clintons, the Kennedys, Pelosi, etc." are communists, please provide us with links to statements they have made that would indicate their espousal of communist ideals. The same goes for "most union and AFLCIO leaders." Who are these people and what are they doing and saying that would indicate their communist ideals?
     
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    He was an ultra-right wing conspiracy theorist, not a communist, so his list is merely what he thinks communists intended to accomplish, not any sort of official statement of their goals.

    Nonsense.

    Just because something is read into the Congressional record does not make it valid, insightful, or relevant. Anyone in Congress can read anything into the Congressional record.
     
  8. Rufus_1611

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    He was also a Senior FBI guy under Hoover and served for 16 years. If there are folks in our nation that recognize what the Communist agenda is/was, I would hope the FBI guys are/were aware.

    Having said that, he was a Mormon a CNP member and a friend of Moon so it is probable that he was a bit whack. However, regardless of origin and regardless of the character of the individuals that published and read this into the Congressional record, what matters is most of these objectives have come true and most of these objectives are inconsistent with a Constitutional Republic.

    Very true.
     
  9. Analgesic

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    How, exactly?
     
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    How exactly what?
     
  11. Filmproducer

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    More like points 1 and 2 were ridiculous enough that there was no need to sift through the other 43. :laugh: It's called time management.



    And the liberals are to blame for Bush's failed attempt at unilateral foreign policy and subsequent loosening on Pyonyang's sanctions why? At least under the Clinton Administration's bilateral talks we were able to force N. Korea out of backing out of the NPT.

    Now please tell me what other alternative there is? You really would prefer the fallout of nuclear war? Seriously? I'm sure you will be singing a different tune after such an occurance, that is if you are still around. Then again if you are it will be the "liberals" fault, right. :rolleyes:



    Sure sounded like it to me:

     
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    How are "most of these objectives" "inconsistent with a Constitutional Republic"?
     
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    It's not self-evident?
     
  14. Analgesic

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    Not even close.
     
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    Communism like socialism doesn't work unless it's funded from without (see U.S.S.R and it's collapse). Find out who's doing the funding and you'll find out who's goals they really are. Hint, look into the "foundations" like Ford, Carnegie and Rockefeller. The same folks pushing...yep you guessed it globalization and global warming.
     
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    I do not doubt you on this for a minute.:thumbs:
     
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    Still waiting for you to respond to my last post....
     
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    Formerly known as the Progressive Caucus of the Democrat Party....



    http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/groupProfile.asp?grpid=7123
     
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    Many of you are well enough off that the tax cuts may have helped you. We're saying that for America to get back on track, we're probably going to cut that short and not give it to you. We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good.
    Hillary Clinton

    We must stop thinking of the individual and start thinking about what is best for society.
    Hillary Clinton

    http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/h/hillary_clinton.html



    “When you withhold funds from enforcing a decision of the Supreme Court, you are in fact nullifying a decision of the Supreme Court,” she told reporters. “This is in violation of the respect of separation of powers in our Constitution.”

    Nancy Pelosi speaking in the context of seizing personal property for government gain.

    http://nomayo.mu.nu/archives/099503.php


    Now lets get this straight. Socialism enforced by use of force via the government is communism. I personall believe in socialism until it is mandatred through the government.That is communism. Anyone who supports socialism enforced by the government supports communism.





     
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    Once again, in their foolishness, the American public has believed the lies of their "leaders" who applaud "the fall of Communism", while they have sold out the country to anti-Christian, anti-American statutes and regulations on the federal, state, and local levels. Posted below is a comparison of the original ten planks of the Communist Manifesto written by Karl Marx in 1848, along with the American adopted counterpart of each of the planks, The American people have truly been "buried in Communism" by their own politicians of both the Republican and Democratic parties. One other thing to remember, Karl Marx was stating in the Communist Manifesto that these planks will test whether a country has become commmunist or not. If they are all in effect and in force the country IS communist. Communism, but by any other name...??
    1. Abolition of private property and the application of all rent to public purpose.
    The 14th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution (1868), and various zoning, school & property taxes. Also the Bureau of Land Management.

    2. A heavy progressive or graduated income tax.
    Misapplication of the 16th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution, 1913, The Social Security Act of 1936.; Joint House Resolution 192 of 1933; and various State "income" taxes. We call it "paying your fair share".


    http://www.uhuh.com/nwo/communism/10planks.htm
     
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