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Congressman Too Truthful

Discussion in 'Free-For-All Archives' started by poncho, Aug 25, 2004.

  1. Priscilla Ann

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    cmg:

    No my Christian values DO NOT include the murder of unborn babies. That is why I am having second thoughts about supporting John Kerry. I am taking a serious look at Peroutka.

    As a Christian, I don't think that I can vote for John Kerry (because of the abortion issue). I know that I cannot vote for Bush either -- the man has lied about so many issues (Medicare, WMD just for starters). I absolutely do not trust Bush and cannot vote for him.

    No one is saying that the drug companies shouldn't make a profit, but something is wrong when my mother can purchase identical drugs from Canada at a fraction of the cost she would pay in the U.S. You don't think there is a coporate greed problem? Be honest!
     
  2. KenH

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    Ron Paul is a Republican. I did not know that the Republican Party supports abortion.
     
  3. KenH

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    Beats me, cmg. The company I am currently working for is losing money at the current price of gasoline. If we were making money then the price of gasoline would have to be about $.11 per gallon higher at the moment.
     
  4. KenH

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    I am not talking about joining forces with any political party or with any ideological group.

    I am talking about joining forces to save this nation from fiscal bankruptcy for the sake of your children and grandchildren, as well as yourself.
     
  5. pinoybaptist

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    Why am I in the CP ? Because I swore allegiance to the US, this is my country now, and its best interests is what I have at heart, and I believe it is the CP who serves the best interests of this country right now.

    Of course, I don't expect everybody to agree with that statement.

    No, I don't believe the US is playing Santa Claus to the Philippines. It gives, it takes, that's the rule of politics, and it is up to the Philippines to harden its nose to US moves. If it is soft nosed and gets pushed all over the floor, that's their fault, not the US's.
     
  6. poncho

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    Hola CMG, Cisco says, "quien era ese hombre enmascarado"? (who was that masked man?) :D
     
  7. pinoybaptist

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    As for cutting off all aid to the Philippines, I'm all for cutting off all aid to everybody. Heck, we need those dollars here, and most of those countries that get our dollars, with the exception of some, the Philippines included, will shoot us dead with glee, given half the chance.

    Fact, I've posted time and again that we ought to recall all our troops and fleets home, unilaterally, and the hell with others, let them defend their liberties and their shores themselves. They want the overextended American Eagle's presence ? Let them beg for it.
     
  8. church mouse guy

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    Peroutka wants to stop food and water from going to the Sudan. He wants to abandon Israel to the Arabs. As for the Philippines, they are fighting Islam, as one of the group that murdered the American missionary was related to Osama Bin Laden by marriage.

    America ended isolationism in 1940. If we had not, Pinoybaptist, you would be speaking Japanese right now.
     
  9. poncho

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    Wow! pinoybaptist, with an attitude like that your never going to be excepted as a good ole boy ;) socialist.
     
  10. pinoybaptist

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    cmg:

    Well, if Peroutka wants to stop food and water to Sudan, he must have a reason. As for Israel, why should her fight be our fight, too ? Simply because we believe them to be God's 'chosen people' ?
    And the Philippines ? What you cited as reason is really not the reason, my friend. The Filipino muslims have been neglected as a part of the Filipino people for a long time. For a long time they tried the democratic way, but to no avail. So, now, they're up in arms, bin Laden or no bin Laden. He just happened to be there.

    This is an example of what I was saying about being aware of what really happened.

    What you know is what you read about. Probably what you learned in school, or wherever, but not first hand. What I know is what I was told by my own folks, father and mother, both guerillas, and my old countrymen.

    The Japs were down on their knees because of the blows delivered by Filipino guerillas. Read up on the guerilla movement in the Philippines, if you like. Check out Marking's guerillas, or the ROTC Hunter's Guerillas, even Chinese guerillas.

    Those guys started their units with a few guns, mostly machetes, and knives.

    Sgt. Rock came simply to deliver the coup de grace.

    And then, he sets a table and chair, and says, 'all right you guys, fall in, and let me decide who really fought and who did not, so I can give you backpay'.
     
  11. church mouse guy

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    Okay. The final note is that the reason for refusing food for the Sudan is to save money. The Consternation Party is upset that taxpayer money is being spent overseas.

    As for Israel, American withdrawal at this time would signal weakness and the Arabs would try another attack on Israel. Europe is too weak to interfere and is mostly pro-Arab--the Pope kisses Arafat. So Israel would have to use nuclear weapons to defeat the Arabs. The election of Peroutka would signal the beginning of a nuclear war. It would also signal American defeat in the war against terror and continued attack on the homeland from Arab sleeper cells in the US and Canada.
     
  12. KenH

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    So, cmg, if you can set aside your party politics harangue for a moment, are you for eliminating the federal budget deficit and the trade deficit or not?
     
  13. Terry_Herrington

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    Ken, I hope you are not really expecting an answer from CMG?

    I no longer consider myself a democrat and I am certainly not a republican. Maybe I will write in Peroutka, I haven't made up my mind. I know that now I cannot support either party. They have played the citizens of the U.S., especially the Christians, like violins. My strings just broke; I will not tolerate this treatment any longer!
     
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    I can appreciate your position, Terry. I invite your input on the "Running on Empty" thread where I hope that those interested in setting aside party politics and electioneering can discuss the problems that need solving in this country, such as the budget deficit, the trade deficit, social security, and health care, including medicare.

    I have already posted in that thread what I think are very good articles outlining these problems.
     
  15. KenH

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    Welcome, my friend!
     
  17. church mouse guy

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    Now that Kerry seems lost, I think that a lot of people will come out for Peroutka. Personally, I am glad. He is a long way from the 98,000 of the last time, and the GOP needs to show the public that the right wingers have all gone to the Holy Constitution Party.
     
  18. The Galatian

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    Peroutka is gaining adherents from both right and left. "Conservative" and "liberal" no longer have any meaning in American politics.

    Time for a regime change. I mean normal Americans vs. demopublicans.
     
  19. KenH

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    So, cmg, are you for eliminating the federal budget deficit and the trade deficit or not?
     
  20. Terry_Herrington

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    You seem to be upset that the Constitution Party stands for Christian values. Maybe you have been in the Republican party so long that you don't remember what real Christian values are all about.

    I know, as a former democrat, that I put way too much dependence on government to solve our problems. I now believe that as long as we put our faith in either party for our national redemption, God has no reason to interfere.

    Perhaps if we Christians did what we could to go back to the type of government that our founding fathers established, we would better see our need for God's leadership and power in our country. The only real problem I believe will be in the transition. For this, I don't have an answer; however, surely if we actually began this process, God would lead us step by step.

    Before you think that I have lost my mind, and that I actually expect this to happen, I don't. God however told many Old Testament prophets to warn against impending doom even though this warning would not stop the inevitable. Likewise we should position ourselves correctly regardless of the outcome.

    Remember, voting for the lesser of two evils is still a vote for evil.
     
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