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  1. AVL1984

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    Michelle says:

    I do not find what this website has to say about it is far fetched. If many understood what gnosticism is, and what the secret societies believe, and what they are doing, and have done for hundreds of years, you would all not scoff at this. What does God say about the tribulation period, or the Day of the Lord?

    2 Thess. 2

    9. Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
    10. And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
    11. And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
    12. That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

    AVL1984 says:&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;Michelle, are you misrepresenting those who use the MV's again, calling even their salvation into question again? I find this wholly unacceptable. Who died and made you God?


    Michelle says:&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
    And for those of you who say, the truth is faith and belief in Jesus Christ, this is parially true. However do not forget this:

    Gal. 1

    6. I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel:
    7. Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.
    8. But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
    9. As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.
    10. For do I now persuade men, or God? or do I seek to please men? for if I yet pleased men, I should not be the servant of Christ.
    11. But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man.
    12. For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ.

    AVL1984 says:&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;Michelle, are you implying that those who use MV's are removed from His grace? Please prove that those who use the MV's are preaching "another Gospel". They aren't and you cannot prove it.

    Michelle continues with a quote of:&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
    John 5

    37. And the Father himself, which hath sent me, hath borne witness of me. Ye have neither heard his voice at any time, nor seen his shape.
    38. And ye have not his word abiding in you: for whom he hath sent, him ye believe not.
    39. Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.
    40. And ye will not come to me, that ye might have life.
    41. I receive not honour from men.
    42. But I know you, that ye have not the love of God in you.
    43. I am come in my Father's name, and ye receive me not: if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive.
    44. How can ye believe, which receive honour one of another, and seek not the honour that cometh from God only?
    45. Do not think that I will accuse you to the Father: there is one that accuseth you, even Moses, in whom ye trust.
    46. For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me: for he wrote of me.
    47. But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe my words?

    AVL1984 says:&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Michelle, are you again implying that those who use MV's are any less spiritual or saved than those who are bibliolators and hold to the kjVERSION ONLY position??? Are you questioning the belief in Christ of your brothers and sisters in the Lord? The MV's preach the same thing as the kjVERSION.

    Michelle continues with her implications of corruption of the believers who use MV's...which I personally find distasteful and dishonest on her part....
    2 Cor. 2

    14. Now thanks be unto God, which always causeth us to triumph in Christ, and maketh manifest the savour of his knowledge by us in every place.
    15. For we are unto God a sweet savour of Christ, in them that are saved, and in them that perish:
    16. To the one we are the savour of death unto death; and to the other the savour of life unto life. And who is sufficient for these things?
    17. For we are not as many, which corrupt the word of God: but as of sincerity, but as of God, in the sight of God speak we in Christ.

    AVL1984 says:&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;Again, more of Michelles implications of brothers and sisters in the Lord being wicked and preaching a false gospel by the twisting of scriptures:&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;


    Matt. 24

    23. Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.
    24. For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
    25. Behold, I have told you before.
    26. Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it
    not.

    AVL1984 says:&gt;&gt;&gt;The above Scriptures don't even have anything to do with what Michelle's attempted point is. But, I find this typical of her posts. She continues on in the next set of verses, which still do not prove her point.

    2 Cor. 11

    10. As the truth of Christ is in me, no man shall stop me of this boasting in the regions of Achaia.
    11. Wherefore? because I love you not? God knoweth.
    12. But what I do, that I will do, that I may cut off occasion from them which desire occasion; that wherein they glory, they may be found even as we.
    13. For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.
    14. And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
    15. Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.


    Love in Jesus Christ our Lord and Saviour,
    michelle

    Michelle, when are you going to post some true proof of the MV's being corrupt? The Christians who use them being corrupt, deceived? Prove they don't preach the same thing. Prove that the KJV is the only Word of God. Which version? 1611? 1769? Another revision of the KJV? Which one of the versions...the Cambridge? The Oxford??? Which? You've refused to answer. Why? Honest questions. Be honest and answer them!

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    Since you believe yourself to be so enlightened, care to let the rest of us in on what gnosticism is??? We're waiting. :rolleyes:

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