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Covering Head

Discussion in 'Free-For-All Archives' started by NewGrrl, Apr 23, 2005.

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  1. NewGrrl

    NewGrrl New Member

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    Everyone has been great answering questions for me. I thought I'd give this one a try:

    I Cor. 11:3-16. The reasons Paul gives for women covering their hair:

    v. 5 Women dishonor their head when they pray uncovered

    v. 6 It is a disgrace to have hair uncovered , just as her head were shaved

    v. 10 - two reasons (1) appears would offend angels who were present at worship and (2) women should have a sign of authority over their head

    Three of the four reasons don't appear to have anything to do with customs at the time (arguably it is not disgraceful for a woman to have her head shaved any longer, although most women would feel ashamed).

    Why should I not be covering my head when I go to public worship?
     
    #1 NewGrrl, Apr 23, 2005
  2. Melanie

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    This is an old question but a goodie Newgrrl.

    I cover my head because it is a custom at my church. I do not feel strongly about it and am ambivalent about some of the rationale, however, it is a very good church and I want to attend it so I abide by the rules. My church is not wild about women and girls wearing pants either so I wear a skirt or dress. My workplace requires I wear pants as a part of my occupational requirements so I oblige.
     
    #2 Melanie, Apr 23, 2005
  3. dianetavegia

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    NewGrrl, If you do a search for headcoverings, you'll find dozens of VERY heated debates on this subject.

    We do have a few members who cover.
     
    #3 dianetavegia, Apr 23, 2005
  4. NewGrrl

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    Diane: I tried searching head cover and headcoverings and I was only brought to this post. I tried searching in both the Baptist Only sections as well as the general discussions. Could you post a link to the other discussions?

    Thanks!
     
    #4 NewGrrl, Apr 23, 2005
  5. dianetavegia

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    Check the archives. [​IMG] The passwords there are 2003 for 2003, 2004 for 2004, etc. I've got to head out to church. It's our AWANA Grand Prix Race Day. I'm the Cubbie Director.
     
    #5 dianetavegia, Apr 23, 2005
  6. Gib

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    Diane, since you're so giving today, how about giving me the password to the womens private forum. I want to research some real life babbling.
     
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    Gib, you would be disappointed. [​IMG]
     
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  8. NewGrrl

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    I don't see how to research the archives. Can someone explain...? Thanks!
     
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    A headcovering was the norm for the Catholic Church until about 1965 until they announced that women no longer were required to wear a head covering.

    If a Christian lady wants to look like a Muslim that is her business but she would probably communicate a wrong testimony to those on the street.
     
    #9 gb93433, Apr 23, 2005
  10. Gayla

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    gb, the headcoverings I've seen on Christian ladies are much different than I've seen on Muslim ladies.
    Much smaller.
     
    #10 Gayla, Apr 23, 2005
  11. dianetavegia

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    Ah Gib... we no longer give out a password for the women's forum. I have to enable each person permanently. You're not a 'girlie man' so you can't come in!
     
    #11 dianetavegia, Apr 23, 2005
  12. dianetavegia

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    Our search isn't working like it used to and I'm not sure why. Checking with Webmaster...

    Diane
     
    #12 dianetavegia, Apr 23, 2005
  13. violet

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    I have never thought Menonite women to look like Muslims :eek: , nor do Catholics who cover. I have no idea what covering Baptists might wear (I've never seen any Baptists cover-- though I know some do.) but I doubt they look like they're wearing a burqa.
     
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  15. gb93433

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    The headcovering spoken of in the NT is much like what Muslim women wear today in the Middle East. So if one wants to comply within the historical context of the NT they will look like a Muslim woman today.
     
    #15 gb93433, Apr 23, 2005
  16. dianetavegia

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    One of our headcovering ladies sent me a headcovering about 2 years ago. It was black lace and looked like an oval doiley. I showed it to Gib.
     
    #16 dianetavegia, Apr 23, 2005
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  18. dianetavegia

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    Mioque! LOVE it! LOLOL

    The southern black ladies wear hats much like those shown in the wedding photos of Camilla. I've tried some on for fun at a dress store here in town.
     
    #18 dianetavegia, Apr 24, 2005
  19. mioque

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    I'm getting more modest, the previous one was bright red and spiky.
     
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  20. bmerr

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    All,

    bmerr here. I believe the Scripture reference is 1 Cor 11:3-16. Something to notice is Paul's statement in verse 3,

    "But I would have you know that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God."

    The issue here is that of authority. In the Corinthian culture, a woman covered her head to show that she was under the authority of her husband. The context of these verses is one of a women-only assembly, as Paul mentions women praying or prophesying, which are prohibited in the general assembly (1 Cor 13:34; 1 Tim 2:12).

    In their culture, for a woman to be shorn meant that she was a prostitute. For a Christian woman to be uncovered would send the wrong message to be sure!

    To show that the issue of head coverings was cultural, we need only to understand that Eve had no veil. This matter was not based on creation.

    Also, in 1 Sam 1:13, we notice that as Hannah prayed silently, Eli "marked her mouth", which would have been impossible had she been veiled.

    Women today should not be required to wear a covering on their head, unless it is of cultural necessity to keep from evil being spoken of her.

    In Christ,
    bmerr
     
    #20 bmerr, Apr 28, 2005
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